This game is dead

Objectivity refers to information or judgment based on observable phenomena and facts, independent of personal feelings or biases. Subjectivity involves personal viewpoints, emotions, and interpretations that can vary based on individual experiences and perspectives.

Even if 99% of people find one thing boring, this is still a personal, subjective feeling.

A poll might reveal the objective fact that the majority think something is one way or the other. If your interest is to cater to the majority, this is important information.

But:
If restaurants would only go after the majority of possible customers, there wouldnā€™t be a Japanese restaurant where I live. Catering to the majority is not the only viable strategy to earn money.

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Nicely put. Which btw is why I wrote ā€œan objective sideā€. An opinion can be objectively wrong when it doesnā€™t fit with observations. This doesnā€™t include emotions/feelings. They are just there, for everyone their own.

In other words: Objectively, a lot of people donā€™t like math. Thus, math is dead? I donā€™t think so. But we could do something about it in the schools.

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Actually, this statement is subjective. What is ā€œa lotā€? That term is completely subjective.

We know that some donā€™t like it and we know that some like it. Are there trustworthy studies indicating a trend on how many do or donā€™t? If there are, then we should say that ā€œX% of people donā€™t like mathā€. That would be the objective statement.

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Sure. I didnā€™t have numbers available.
I am sorry.

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Thatā€™s fine. Iā€™m just being pedantic :laughing:

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a lot (noun)
A group or set of people

A set can be composed of just one item, so 1 is a lot?

Also, you picked up the definition for ā€œone lotā€ not for ā€œa lotā€. The definition for ā€œa lotā€ would be:
-Miriam-webster: ā€œto a considerable degree or extentā€
-Cambridge: ā€œa large amount or number of people or thingsā€

If you use ā€˜a lotā€™ as an adverb, then yes.
It can also be a noun with an indefinite article :wink:

So youā€™re saying that a subjective term is itself semantically subjective?

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Objectively, it has different semantic interpretations. I subjectively considered it more fun to answer your rhetoric question a bit out of context, even though I exactly knew what you meant :smiley:

Another example:
I saw her duck. - Two distinct semantic meanings, same syntax and symbols.

Subjectively, language is more fun than math. Objectively, this does not say that math is boring. Subjectively, you may interpret my sentence that way.

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Yeah, this is why I always prefer to read books in English when their original language is English. Translation is interpreting the meaning, and Iā€™d rather interpret it myself.

Also funny that you mentioned an example with duck because one of the things that grate me a lot in portuguese TV is awful translations (also the reason why I prefer english subtitles instead) and one of the more hilarious Iā€™ve ever found was in a Chucky movie where the girl sees Chucky show up behind the kid and says ā€œDuckā€ and they translated as the animal, rather than the verb. Which obviously made everyone go ā€œwtf?ā€ because it made no sense :stuck_out_tongue:

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Well, today I learned a new word!

No, pretty sure that given his usual invective about LE & people that enjoy it that he meant that ā€œpayā€ (thus that anyone who enjoys the game is paid to enjoy it by EHG).

Using that term enables him to justify his persecution complex, kinda like certain other people we probably arenā€™t allowed to talk about here.

Obviously. Otherwise youā€™d get into the linguistic equivalent of 1+1 != 2, which clearly cannot be demonstrably true.

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Technically, yes. It would be one lot. ā€˜aā€™ lot.

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Lemme try this stuff too.

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Well, when the game releases new content and struggles to get 5k players online? which is 2% of the peak (260k), I think itā€™s pretty dead. I wonā€™t even go into detail about how much the game struggles to get to 200 viewers on Twitchā€¦

Yeah this is one of those reasons why I espouse that full release / expansion model. You can spend months letting people know itā€™s coming and then when they get there, thereā€™s actually a large number of hours worth the new things to do / explore if they want to. Then itā€™s not this continuous thing where we need people to be online constantly in order for the game to exist.

I think people dramatically underestimate the value of treating games primarily as single player content these days. If I canā€™t have fun by myself, I certainly canā€™t have fun with a bunch of other people in a game like this.

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I honestly think LE was intended to be this experience. Multiplayer and cycles were not in the game at release. They could have planned for it from the beginning? Iā€™m not sure. But 90% of the issues people have with the game lie in the ā€œgames as a serviceā€ model that was adopted with multiplayer.

I donā€™t go one way or another but most of my favorite games of all time are not ā€œgames as a service.ā€

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The game was in EA for about five years, most of which was without multiplayer, right?

So yeah, Iā€™m not surprised that this game is more fun aloneā€¦ unless you really like playing with your friends then it gets lonely fast (talking about myself here).

Arenā€™t most diablo-clones more fun alone? I know Iā€™ve always had more fun playing on my own in PoE (with breaks sometimes to rush people), or in D2 (MP was pretty much mostly to leech), even D4.

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No, I like playing with my friends better. Get kind of bored alone. These games arenā€™t really very deep from a combat perspective, more people increases the chaos. I like to do the builds alone though.

Souls-like are (mostly) better alone. There itā€™s more about player skill than builds and combat chaos.