So is ESG gonna delay the cycle becuz of PoE 2?

[Deviant]

@arandan

As far as players go. it’s just herd mentality.

Only a very tiny minority of the best players benefit from a fast league/cycle start, since they get to endgame really fast and can take advantage of a small supply of certain items/currencies
For an average normie starting 1-2 weeks after is actually more beneficial, since the economy stabilizes and the items that they’d actually want to trade for become more affordable.

nope most people benefit from starting on day 1 fresh with everyone else even for an average normie aswell its clear you dont understand how games like this work and good thing EHG dont listen to people with thought process like yours or this game would die instantly

[Deviant]

cope all you want

[Llama8]

'K, I’m sure that means something to the generation that’s unlikely to get onto the property ladder.

[arandan]

What exact benefit does a normie get from league starting on day 1 vs day 7?

Please enlighten me, cause I’ve only been playing these games since this genre was invented, but you clearly have some knowledge that’s escaped me.

[Llama8]

@arandan

What exact benefit does a normie get from league starting on day 1 vs day 7

FOMO?

@Deviant

back to your basement

I’d love a basement though I don’t think they’re particularly common in London (at least the part of London that normal people can afford). My ex-mother-in-law had one & it was awesome.

[Deviant]

oh my condolences i didnt know you live in london you poor soul

[arandan]

Even FOMO doesn’t apply, since that’s not really established in the first week.

The only way to stay ahead of the curve is to have prior knowledge as to what is going to be overpowered and accumulate enough wealth in the first couple of days to be able to afford to snatch items before they skyrocket in price.

That is not attainable by a normie. That’s why ‘casuals’ can’t get on the FOMO treadmill until deep into the league start, usually week 2 and onwards, when more and more people start saturating the market and bringing the price down.

[Deviant]

you been playing this genre for 20 years but dont even realize how important it is for people to play on day 1? wich is why these type of games try to avoid each other with their league dates whats more to explain there? its important thats why they do it

[arandan]

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[DJSamhein]

@Deviant

wich is why these type of games try to avoid each other with their league dates whats more to explain there? its important thats why they do it

The reason why games try to avoid each other’s launches has nothing to do with the importance of day 1 for players. It’s all about getting the maximum number of players to join because studies have shown that seasonal games make the most amount of money with MTX in the first month. It’s also why GGG will always make a sale a couple of weeks into a new league.
So if they release a new season and a competing game starts 2 weeks later, that is effectively removing revenue from them. It has nothing to do with players feeling like they have to join from hour 0.

[Llama8]

Well, within the M25. I quite like London though, even if the house prices are hideous.

@arandan

Are you just daft, and unable to comprehend simple sentences, or are you creating strawmen on purpose?

Yes? Or he just doesn’t want to accept that other people play for other reasons.

[ApacheVE3D]

Keep in mind, 2 weeks after POE2 launches, they will release a large patch with probably new stuff in it. Plan ahead

[Deviant]

you both are daft and projecting you both dont want to accept that MAJORITY of people prefer playing on day 1 the new league instead on day 30 just becuz you the minority dont mind it means nothing i literally never said other people dont play for other reasons i always said you are the minority to play for those other reasons how are you both so stupid learn to read

[Deviant]

@DJSamhein

@Deviant

wich is why these type of games try to avoid each other with their league dates whats more to explain there? its important thats why they do it

The reason why games try to avoid each other’s launches has nothing to do with the importance of day 1 for players. It’s all about getting the maximum number of players to join because studies have shown that seasonal games make the most amount of money with MTX in the first month.

so it has everything to do with day 1 importance what are you coping about the only way to get maximum online players is if they avoid each other and let the community play both games on day 1 to get maximum online players like lmao you contradict yourself

[DJSamhein]

I don’t know what it is lately with Abomb clones arguing on the forum with language issues, but it’s quite clear that nothing good will come of arguing with you, since you distort everything everyone says, ignore half of it and think you represent all players.
You’re not arguing in good faith and there’s no point in keeping this up. Have fun with your trollscapade.

[Deviant]

bro distort everything himself and ignore half the things i say and then says “no you” stop projecting just becuz i owned in your argument doesnt make me troll and i never said i represented ALL the people again you decided to ignore that part and make assumptions out of your ass i said MAJORITY

[AbombDaChamp]

@Lyutsifer

i think you give poe2 too much credit.

I mean they are making the next gen ARPG of the future. They deserve some credit and why they had well over 1 million early access sales. The game has a bright future and more End Game than LE currently in early access. I’m sure when PoE 2 fully launches they will have 3-5 million players because it will be free to play offering more than any ARPG in the market.

So I’d give them some credit. I just hope EHG can survive and Season 2 is successful bringing back at least 200k players. They need Season 2 to hit or well… LE won’t have many more seasons. That’s just the reality of the gaming industry.

[Erasculio]

@AbombDaChamp

Season 2 is successful bringing back at least 200k players

That’s extremely unlikely. This ship has already sailed. People who were hungry for a new action RPG already found Path of Exile 2, and people who tried Last Epoch and gave up on it likely won’t return for the second season. The huge gap between 1.1 and 1.2 also likely didn’t help. I would expect Last Epoch to get at most 100.000 concurrent players on the season 2 release.

[arandan]

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[darkdeal]

@Deviant

nope most people benefit from starting on day 1 fresh with everyone else even for an average normie aswell its clear you dont understand how games like this work and good thing EHG dont listen to people with thought process like yours or this game would die instantly

Define “day 1”.

I prefer to work and make money instead of trying to log into a game that has a broken login server or some other problem. I don’t know a single popular aRPG that has had a clean flawless season start. Almost always login problems. I’d rather wait a bit.

I also don’t nolife games to have the currency to buy the items on the market anyway. arandan is correct in his assessment of “average normies”. I can’t sit in a seat and play a game for 8 hours.