Item rework thread - all suggestions welcome

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Hiya this is a thread where people can post a link to an older item they think needs a rework or something added to it like maybe a higher drop rate/better LP chance. @EHG_Mike suggested in dev chat a few months back that I should do this here.

This is for OLDER items. I started in S02 last year so for me it would be any item before then. I’ll be doing items I would like to use/have tried. I only really play sent/rogue and some primalist.

I’d list more maces but there is a clear lack of them in game atm.

Please use in brackets (RW) for rework and (DR) for drop rate/higher LP for items you probably have never seen LP3 of, EVER due to 1 in 3 million etc no point in saying you can have an LP3 if it is close to impossible and highly improbable ie LP4 red ring. Having both (RW) or (DR) means the item is not strong/fun/good enough with current drop rate so rework it please or if you don’t want to rework it please allow it to drop more consistently LP2+ as it probably drops bad base with 0LP / LP1 far to often.

If you have an idea for a rework that’s fine try not make it too long like 99% of my shit posts, lol.

PLEASE DO NOT CRITICISE SOMEONE ELSES OPINION It’s their opinion, the choice is down to the developers not to those of us posting this is just so they can see thoughts and potentially consider an idea if THEY agree with it. Arguing or criticising will just derail the thread.

2H Swords
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRlA4GYg - Leviathan Carver (RW) or (DR)
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzDMCYEZyA - Eternal Eclipse (RW)
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzBsGYEYE4g - Merophage (RW!!!)
1H Swords
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCMoFgZiA - Gladiators Oath (RW)
1H Maces
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzBMwDmI - Bloodgeon (RW)
2H Maces
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRhGYDYBYg - Event Horizon (RW) or (DR)
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzBsEZQJiA - Bhuldar’s Wrath (RW) or (DR)
Spears
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwjMHYEYg - Phalanx (DR) (newer I know)
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzAsEYCZiA - Trident of the last Abyss (DR!!)
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzDMCZwNiA - Tu’rani’s Bident (RW buff)
Staves
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCswdgZiA - Plague Bearers (DR)
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzDMCYA4E4g - Bo’s Anarchy (RW)
Daggers - Due to Traitors Tongue being so good the following need a buff (RW) imo. Jelkhor’s is good but melee det arrow mana cost makes it very pointless. Maybe add a mana stat or mana on hit etc
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzDMCZQNiA - Drought’s release
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzBsCYA4FYg - Jelkhor’s Blast Knife
Shields
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRgzMCsxA - The Slab (RW)
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAw4VgRiA - Close Call (RW)
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRgrATCxA - Flayer’s Pride (DR)
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRg7CCcAcQ - Bastion of Honour (DR)
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRjFZyA - Horns of Uhkeiros (DR)
Helms
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCsCZKA Prismatic Gaze (DR)
Body Armor
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzAswRgJiA - Yrun’s Wisdom (RW)
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzAsCYFZKA - Core of the Mountain (DR!!!)
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzBsEYFYGYg - Wings of Argentus (DR)
Gloves
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCcEYA4HYg - Salt the Wound (DR omg LP)
Boots
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwjMFZiA - Flight of Quetzeri (RW)

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Phalanx is good.
Spear https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzBMwFgViA Morditas’ Reach (should be here :heavy_check_mark:)
Mace 2h https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzBMwFlI Torch Of The Pontifex - trash, leg level is too high for leveling item and item is to weak for endgame at the same time
Eclipse should work with echoes, atm item’s buff empowers only inial strike and not echoing ones

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Bro it’s a thread where if you want some thing looked at post a link to it and honestly just follow what I said in my post it’s not test… make a list if you don’t like anything, if someone posts something you do like, DONT WORRY chances are it won’t be changed anyways lol

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That is not how things work. Discussing an item, especially from multiple angles gives the devs way more than just a “this needs a rework” or “this needs drop rate/LP chance change”

I don’t think it needs a rework. It is incredible strong for specific use cases. It is definitely not an item you slap on any random build and you need to build around it. I prefer uniques to be very specific and niche rather than generically strong. If anything the LP chance maybe could be slightly increased.

Same as Eternal Eclipse. I love this Items, it is so strong if you build around it. Only thing I would agree with is giving it more LP chance. This is one of the rarest LP chance items overall. Farming it for 100’s of times getting more than 1 LP is super hard. Some of my best builds used this item and it is super fun and build defining.

Complete disagree. This item is super strong and has very high LP chance. The only “bad” thing about the item is the low base damage due to the low base type. But that is easily countered by the high LP chance and slapping a high tier exalted flat melee damage affix on it.

Why does this item need a rework? I think it is not the item that is bad, but rather Dancing Strikes being unpopular and thus this item doesn’t get a lot of use. So changes/buffs would need to happen for Dancing Strikes and this item would automatically become better.

I played a few different Dancing Strikes Builds already using this item and it was always super good and fun, especially because you can reliably get 2 and 3 LP versions of it.

Disagree. I think this is a case of one item that is way to strong and oppressive is ruining all the other items. Don’t buff a dozen other items. Nerf that one outlier. I think Traitor’s Tongue is a cool item, but it’s LP chance specifically is waaaaaaaaay to high. I think nerfing it’s LP chance so you only can get 1LP maybe occasionally 2LP reliably would be enough. So a 3LP or 4LP traitor s tongue are actually really really rare.
Changing the LP to be similar to Smoke Weaver’s LP chance would be the right ballpark of LP chance for Traitor’s Tongue

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Why/how is more important than just saying that you think an item needs a rework. If a customer tells you that a thing you make/do/whatever isn’t particularly good, is that particularly helpful? Does it give you any idea as to what element they think needs improving & how?

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I suspect the initial list doesn’t consider the level of the items. There’s room for low level uniques that are eventually superseded by more rare uniques.

Also some uniques are too powerful, so powerful that they occure in way too many builds and not all that rare / easy to get. In my opinion:

We could also look at lastepochtools builds to see which uniques are used the most and the least in their builds to get a better indication:

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