Actually, that’s not true. Previously rares dropped with 4 affixes and you could add one from the codex, while legendaries always dropped with 4. Which means that the best gear was yellows that you could add to. With the proposed change, rares will have 2 affixes and legendaries will have 3, so legendaries are now the ones you want.
Druid leveling would beg to disagree. I don’t know what changes they made in the meantime, but druid was horrible to level because they couldn’t do anything until they got the legendary powers. Barb as well, to a lesser extent.
I think the point in LE is trying to break that paradigm that is especially present in Diablo games where one type of gear is clearly superior so you want all your gear to be that type. In D2 it was runewords and uniques for the rest of the slots, in D3 it was sets, in D4 it’s legendaries.
EHG’s intention for the gear in LE is that you should have uniques/legendaries as well as rares/exalteds. A good T20 rare is better than most exalteds. Their aim is that your gear has different types of rarity. How well they achieved that is up to debate, but it’s a design choice.
what??? THERE ARE only 2 builds DEVASTATING the game so superior to the others that it’s as if everything else didn’t even exist. This is the WORST balancing ARPG in history, even D1, made 500 years ago and creating everything from scratch, had more build diversity than this game. No wonder the game is already dead months after launch and even before the end of season 1
2 things:
1- Yes, balance is all over the place. However, I still have lots of fun with many builds. In fact, I have barely touched Falconer and Warlock so far. Because, and this is an important point, I play LE to have fun. The fact that some builds do 2k+ corruption has no impact on my fun.
2- I don’t know why you react that way when I wasn’t even talking about class balance. I was talking about gear type (rare/exalt/unique/etc).
I think this is a sign of someone who doesn’t really play endgame content lol an exalted with a t7 of your best affix is 99% better than any rare.
This has never been said by any devs. All builds are legendaries and exalteds. It’s no different than d4. All builds in d4 are ancestral legendaries and uniques.
So if someone plays falconer and/or warlock they don’t play LE to have fun? lol I’m sorry, but your point is terrible. There is nothing wrong with playing any of those specs. The point most people have is just about all other specs can’t come close in terms of dps and survivability. A lot of people who play arpgs are playing them to have fun and push hard content. If some spec can push 2k 10 times easier than other specs most people will play it because it’s the path of least resistance. But in the case of LE it just so happens that the two recent masteries are also the most complete specs in the game. They both are fun, do great damage, have great synergies between skills, high survivability, etc. And that’s where most people have a problem with EHG’s design choices. They decided to “fully” release the game without bringing other specs to the design level of falconer, lock, and rune master. With how classes are designed it still feels like this game is in early access.
It’s okay if you like to play the game a certain way, but it’s not okay to say “I don’t play x specs because I play LE to have fun.” So now you’re insulting everyone else who plays those specs.
It’s no one’s fault that those two specs are the most played specs in the game. It’s EHG’s fault for releasing a product with very poorly designed classes.
If you get a T7 of your best affix and one other affix that’s kinda nice along with 2 useless ones, not really. And most exalts will drop just like that, looking at pure numbers.
Let’s discount the fact that until endgame you don’t have all exalts and legendaries (in fact, you can be on your up the corruption ladder without even having all exalts and using just plain uniques) while in D4 you gear up in legendaries early on and stay that way until you start finding uniques in endgame.
The main reason you wear a mix of legendaries and uniques in D4 for now is because there aren’t yet enough uniques. Because the uniques there are show a clear path for the game, where you will eventually end up with just uniques like in D2.
I don’t know if you’re deliberately misreading what I said. I’ll answer honestly anyway. The person I was replying to said:
And I was making the point that I do play a lot of builds because I just want to have fun. I don’t feel like I need to play those 2 to have fun, which is what the OP implied.
Context matters.
Because, as I said, context matters. As I said, the person I was replying to said that there is no point in playing anything other than those 2 because they’re so OP the rest is irrelevant.
As a counterpoint to that, I said that I have in fact barely played those 2 because I like to have fun, so I don’t care if they are more powerful than the rest.
So, in short, I said “I like to have fun so I don’t care if I play with an underpowered build”. You read “Anyone that plays the OP builds isn’t having fun”. That seems like a textbook case of misreading to me.
I think someone nailed it on the head: in D2 - D4 ,you find the item and that’s it. In LE, you have to find the unique, exalted item, and pray it hits. That’s 3 levels too much for many people. And that’s 3 levels enough for others (like me). The problem is, I’m fine with either the unique or exalted item. I don’t NEED to have the perfect legendary gear, although that would be nice.
The person who said D4 has better itemization than LE needs to check in with their doctor. Some serious mental issues there. D4 is great on many levels, but itemization was not one of them. Neither was its endgame, although both seems to be changing (finally) soon in season 4.
If that’s what you meant then you should have said “ I barely touched those specs. Because I don’t care to play those specs.
But you didn’t way it like that.
You said you barely touched those specs. Because, of this important fact. You play LE to have fun.
Doesn’t matter what the context was. You said what you said. There is no misreading what you said.
A very extreme example. If you said “that person deserves to die.” And someone is like “that is horrible you said someone should die.” Then you’re like you misread what I said. I didn’t say someone should die. But you did…
I know it’s a very extreme example. But the point stands, you said what you said.
Fine. If you want to nitpick, then what I said wouldn’t be “If you play those 2 masteries then you’re not having fun”. It would be “If you only play those 2 masteries because they’re very OP, then you’re not playing for fun”. Because, no matter what you say, context does matter and it was in reply to someone saying they HAD to play those 2 because the rest was trash.
I just read what the other person said. They actually never said they felt they had to play them because their op. They just said there are 2 builds devastating the game and they are so superior it’s as if the other specs didn’t exist.
They’re just stating that everyone and their mom knows there are two specs so good that all high end players are playing them. They never once said that they “themselves” feel like they have to play them.
There’s a real lack of endgame activities for blasters and try hards. If LE wants to compete with POE and Diablo there needs to be more and better ladders. I can put in 300-400 hours per cycle/season/etc for whatever game has something interesting going on in. Boss ladder could be cool in 1.1 but there’s not very many details about it yet. Arena mode needs more (less lol) ladder options. Some kind of corruption ladder or loot hunting ladder could be interesting. I would even settle for Greater Last Epoch Rifts at this point.
If it’s as if the other builds didn’t exist, that implies that only the first 2 are worth playing. And that’s fine for the mentality of a competitive player. If you play this (mostly single player) with a competitive mentality, then yes, only those 2 are worth playing.
If you play with a “having fun” mentality, then all builds are worth playing. That’s my whole point.
If I said that Steam is so superior that it’s as if other gaming platforms didn’t exist, I think you can safely assume I only use Steam. For someone that was so adamant on nitpicking implied meaning in my statement, you seem to be a bit biased on the implied meaning of his.
And if I said I don’t play those two specs because I play LE to have fun, it’s safe to assume that i think anyone who plays those specs don’t play LE to have fun.
No. Using your own hyperbolic example, and hyperbolizing it more, it’s like if I said “Everyone that kills a child deserves to die” and you replied “You think everyone deserves to die? That’s awful.”
I never said people that play Falconer/Warlock don’t play to have fun. I said (implied) that people that play Falconer/Warlock EXCLUSIVELY because it’s OP aren’t playing to have fun. So from the set of people that play those 2, only the ones that play it exclusively because they’re broken are the ones not playing for fun. It’s a venn diagram, not a circle.
Anyway, this discussion is leading nowhere and it’s less and less relevant to the topic of the thread, so I think we should just let it lie and stop derailing it.
I’ve had fun with it, but I’ve only really forced myself to empowered monoliths once, every other character I’ve dropped after finishing the existing Campaign. It feels like there are some Masteries that the devs are really in to and get all sorts of cool support with uniques that have cool effects, while others have next to nothing. There’s also the abysmal state of some masteries like Shaman and Forge Guard and I find myself struggling to really stay interested. Hoping to see some of the older masteries get a shot in the arm to stand next to the newer ones, as well as come cool unique items for them in the next cycle.
I REALLY love this. Not something extreme like extra affix tier, but maybe something like whetstones/armor scraps from PoE that only drop at certain corruption?
I got 490 hours in and the game is great! Has a bright future I still log in everyday to do some farming, check auctions etc. The loot is great in LE and that is important for the real end game which is trading. So as the add more content I’m sure the game will continue to grow.
I don’t know this is somewhat subjective and maybe you haven’t found a build you love? I made several chars too high 90’s and they were fun but it wasn’t till I got my HH/Bolt Pally that I pushed corruption and really enjoyed farming. Also no slow down yet in pushing only (659 corrutpion) but I will say you should be able to get to higher corruption faster if the build is capable.
I don’t agree here and your sample size is too small.
I’ve been doubting whether you’re someone real or a dev account because it’s just you in every topic, always defending the game in a stupid way, getting away from the subject and falling into contradictions.
IT WAS YOU WHO SAID THAT LE was different from the others, breaking the build and itemization paradigm, when in fact it is WORSE than the terrible D3 since at least we have a set for each class to master, here there are ONLY 2 BUILDS, everything else is not enough 20% of the power of these 2 UNIQUE BUILDS. just look ingame at the game’s own ranking. Everyone knows it. If you have fun, ok, good for you, but that wasn’t the point and you know it.
