There are way way more builds that don’t need LP to clear 300c than builds that require them. Just look at maxroll and lastepochtools. Almost all builds there reach it without needing LP, even if they show suggested affixes for legendaries. Same for youtube.
Even pre-1.0 pretty much all builds reached 300c without needing LP.
Arena loot is worse tho…
I bet more than 95% of players have not even touched endless arena.
I do not play endless Arena for loot but for fun and climbing leaderboards.
ok with player that does not want to play endless Arena. but are they and EHG devs ok with players who want to play it? it seems not, EHG does not even talk about it.
with end-game this game eill die. end-game, not farming.
first i need you to specifically define “effectively” and “modest pace”.
besides that, probably any ranged or good aoe build.
I often like to say, if it exists it will be required. The mere fact that lp items exists means people will require them for builds, nevermind the state uniques are in. That being said, many builds would look pretty different without lp item since uniques eat alot of stat budget. Or at best, we would have a scenario where one build requires two setups, one with min maxxed items and blessings and the one you use to get there.
Even melee. Recently someone posted a video of a build they made (melee VK) using only 0 gold items from MG and it reached over 700 corruption.
Not really. PoE has double corrupted/enchanted uniques and there isn’t a single build that requires them. Nor has there ever been.
There’s a difference between “You need this for the build to work” and “You need this if you want to push to the absolute maximum”.
Even the frost claw build doesn’t need legendaries to work. It can work with an exalted instead. It just doesn’t push as far.
That’s not a proper poison build. If the target had 200 poison stacks, pre-nerf it would have been at -800 poison resist, now it would be at -120.
The people complaining about poison being “non-viable” are probably thinking that because it cant kill the training dummy in some seconds any more, not because it actually is/is not “non-viable”…
That’s because most people who complain about their build “needing” a triple corrupted 10 LP legendary to “function” don’t understand that there is a difference between functional and BiS that allows you to AFK a ten trillion corruption uber pinnacle boss while ignoring all the mechanics and collect the loot after a 4s power nap.
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effective mean you can clear a monolith island under 1-3 min. or I can come in here and brag to people that I dont need exalt or unique to clear 500 corruption but it would take me 15-20 min to clear a monolith island by slow crawl.
that is a lie most youtube build and their planner give you a list of most if not all unique with crap ton of LP roll on them. also why you comparing a free to play game to a pay game anyway. if you want to compared POE. campare POE to Diablo Immortal. they are both free to play game lol. I play Diablo Immortal but never play POE both are free to play game
Oh look, a build that doesn’t do that.
Oh look, another one.
What’s this, could it be another one?
And so on and so on. I just picked a few of the latest builds from lastepochtools.com.
Almost every single build can do 300c without LP. You’d have to actually screw up your build not to be able to.
What does being free have to do with anything? LE and PoE have more things in common than not and they’re both leading games in their genre, along with D4.
And one might argue that if you want to effectively play PoE at all, you need to buy stash tabs, so it’s not really free.
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Yeah, that’s a bit of an odd take. I could get it if PoE was a p2w fiesta with egregious mechanics that are implemented solely to grind your soul to dust if you don’t fork over the readies. But it’s not (stash tabs & trade notwithstanding).
lol… it takes longer than that to get to some of the objectives, let alone actually getting full stability bonus.
any build capable of doing this right now is using a broken skill which has nothing to do with LP.
dont be silly and over exaggerate.
seeing as you dont actually want to be serious, i wont even bother.
because Free to play game and a Pay game is just totally different. Mentally from the dev and player base perspective too and I don’t want to get deep into this mess . the build you gave those link too need 2lp item man with the right slam into them so most likely you going to need a couple of slam lol. I have more to say but whatever you are right.
They don’t need them to function though, do they?
Kinda, for f2p where you can buy power/coins/whatever from the devs, I’d agree with you. Tjose games are designed to have such atrociously long grind times to get a thing that you end up paying for a shortcut.
That’s not how PoE works though. Which is why he was comparing LE & PoE.
Maybe this will convince you. It’s the build everyone says that NEEDS LP to function. And yet, here’s a budget build with 0LP and that can do over 1k corruption:
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Testing is almost done, video should be up by 31st. When you take a moderate sample of uniques dropping [several thousand] there is moderate difference in the number of 2lp -3Lp, from my testing so far by noticable amount, going every 250 corruption [100-350 bracket] [350+ -600]. Still 0 4lp drops. About half the drops that would be 0lp are 1lp, and about 10-15% of 1lp become 2lp
Looks good, only slight critcism is that rune master is over performing, but the gear he uses makes up for it, as he did not use any slammed exaltds which i think would done a lot better then the gear he used, so it ends up evening out.
I persoanlly will use exalteds over 2lp uniques any day, as they are more reliable for me to get. A killer T3 sealed affix is more then enough. T7 + T6, +T52 +tier 3 is tier 26. Better then most weavers will uniques. Good enough to clear
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I did a similar kind of challenge with only free items from MG Bazaar.
But also playing a ward-less melee build with nothing overpowered about it.
I had some LP gear but only if it was free, and I can only buy one so I have to settle for whatever slam I get.
With welfare gear on a disadvantaged build, I was able to comfortably do 850’s.
I felt I could probably do 1000 with a bit more optimized (but still free) LP slams, and slightly better idols.
This game has almost no balance, I don’t understand how people think that they have had any kind of goal in mind for builds in terms of corruption.
They need to hire a proper balance department and even then they will have loooong ways to go before this game claws back above a 100k players, I kind of doubt they ever will unless cycle 2 makes people wnna give it another chance.
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Crazy how you managed to find 3LP items on the bazaar for 0 gold. Seems that is enough for me to say how MG is a lot stronger for acquiring items. My legit warlock on CoF could not find a single usable 3LP item for almost 120 hours or so.
CoF needs a large buff. Not that anyone would dispute that I think