My small feedback and example of “bad skin” or " * Are there any items you’ve avoided purchasing, and what influenced that decision?". 1) Example: Smite with some talents in tree become a beautiful crackling lance/lightning coming from sky and when i use “blood skin” - its not become “blood lightning” - its become some sort of “blood snot” which i dont wanna see or use. So before purchasing some cosmetics ,especially if its skills - i wanna see the final result and how exactly this work with other talents. Yeah, smite was free, but this stopped me from buying some other skills. “what if this doesnt work/look well with talents?!” 2) I like to combine different parts of different sets in many games, not only arpg , to make something more or less unique. Right now we have not much good sets/armor skins and we almost cant combine them to get a good visual result. May be it will be fixed with time or smt like that 3) I personally like to play acolyte(warlock, lich, necromancer) - warlock skills already have cool visual,but for lich - may be better transform?or some options? Something with crown and wings like “angel of death” and green-black style instead of blue? May be new animations for harvest or reap? For necromancer - more minions skins. Cause they are looks “casual” , exactly like minions which we see in the acts. And something what i like in PoE - its achievement and some “free rewards” - im missing this system,. In poe i bought quite a lot skill skins (almost every shaper skin) , As for the armor - not much can to say… More “demon knights”,more “dark fantasy” skins,more “dark souls style” and i will absolutly avoid “asian” style skins when in the “dark fantasy game” we see robot-skins or something like that. Also would be nice to see re-color options. For example i wish some green-black transform lich with wings and crown,but may be someone want red-black or gold-red-black etc. At this point waframe have the best re-color system ever existed.
Here are my thoughts. Let’s look at POE2 first and why I buy cosmetics there. I played a warrior in Abyss for about 100 hours and towards the back end of my playthrough I bought a cosmetic skin as a way of giving the character a ‘finishing touch’. I spent so long with that character, put so many hours into working on the build pushing it as far as I felt I could take it that giving it some cool looking armour was like the icing on the cake. It was sort of like a sense of pride and satisfaction. It felt like My Character because I had put so much into it. Once I had got everything I wanted out of that season, I moved onto another game instead of making a new character. 100 hours was enough for me. Next season, if I get another 100 hours out of one character I will probably buy another skin for the same reasons.
Now let’s look at LE. With LE, characters tend to feel ‘disposable’ due to how quick you can go from zero to hero. Although I always enjoy my time on a character, I never feel that same sense of ‘journey’ or ownership as I do with a character I have spent 100 hours on. I’m not going to make multiple mages every season (where I would get the most out of a cosmetic), and I’m not going to buy skins for all classes either because money, so the value proposition goes down. I will only buy cosmetics for my ‘main’ class that season, and if my main doesn’t feel valuable to me, then I’m not going to spend money on it. But, the problem is that chars tend to feel a bit more ‘pump and dump’ in this game compared to, say, POE2. You level them very quickly, max their gear out quite easily then move on to the next character (importantly, leaving the cosmetic behind as well). So all in all, for me it comes down to a bigger problem (sorry!) of not just making cosmetics worth a buy in isolation, but how to make characters themselves feel valuable enough for the player to want to spend money on.
As a side note, I also think a character with a good cosmetic needs to look good everywhere it wears it, including on the character select screen and other ingame menus. The game around it has to look good otherwise it cheapens the overall effect of the cosmetic. Whenever I log in to the game, I want to get a little kick out of seeing it in the cosmetics I’ve bought. The current menu looks very dated and it’s incongruous to have a sicko looking character surrounded by dated menus and artwork. Ingame, yes it looks good because you have done a good job on updating the gfx. My suggestion would be to update the character select screen; premium looking crisp menus, give the character when you select it some short animation that accentuates any cosmetics the player has purchased, a cool sounding sound effect to match, then give each class a badass looking idle animation that shows off the sword or shield or the pet or whatever. I’m sure you can come up with good ideas, you are the wizards. It won’t make all the difference in the world but I think it is important to have more satisfying opportunities for the player to see the cosmetics they’ve bought up close in detail.
Bonjour , avant de répondre je tient a préciser quelle type de joueure je suis : Je ne n’est jouer que Sentinelle jusqu’a présent et je ne joue que les classe type Chevalier mélée gros bourrin brutal a se type de jeu , voila. Pour répondre a la question 1 : Mes skins préféré sont les set plaque du précurseur et bronzécaille ( ainsi que les Equipment de dos qui sont dans le thèmes pour le premier cité ) pour le rapport qualité prix il m’est difficile d’établir une valeur , je ne suis pas sûr d’être objectif , ceci dit je ne souhaite pas dépenser plus de 60 euro par saison pour avoir un ensemble d’armure de skin complet arme et équipement dos comprit.
Se qui m’amène a la 2 eme question : Personnellement le style de skin que j’aime c’est LES GROSSE ARMURE BADASSE !!! ( avec des gros Pick et tout ) Mes skin doivent puer la TESTOSTERONE , MES SKIN DOIVENT INSPIRER LE TERREURE LA MORT ET LA VIOLENCE , MES SKIN DOIVE TELLEMENT ETRE BADASSE ET TERRIFIANT QUE MAMIE FASSE UNE CRISE CARDIAQUE EN LES VOYANT !!! MES SKIN DOIVE PAS ETRE GAY !!! MES SKIN DOIVENT INCARNER LE MASSACRE SANGUINAIRE QUE JE VAIS INFLIGER A MES ADVERSAIRE !!! voila , sinon je trouve qu’on manque souvent Cruellement de skin d’arme assortie au set de skin d’armure.
Pour a la 3 -ème Question c’est simple les autres skin que j ai pas acheter ne me plaise pas en général et le set du gardien temporel je l’aime pas en vrai , je l’ai acheter a l’époque parce que y’avais pas mieux en boutique a ce moment la…voila. j’ espèrent vous aider , car j’aime beaucoup le jeu.
Okay first I have to say. I buy all of the supporter packs because I want to support the development of the game. That said… I have never particularly liked the look of most of them. I think the problem is that they all suffer from the “Masters of the Universe” problem where everything is a bit too bulky and superdeformed. I think this is a side effect of the fact that the underlying character models for the classes are not exactly the best things in the world. Because they are sort of “duplo” characters to start… skinning anything over top of them is going to further inflate that existing problem.
The weapons are all hyper blinged out… and what I want are just really cool looking weapons, not shields with fidget spinners and shit on them. The armors are also super intricate and look like I am a walking candelabra most of the time. I just want brutal-looking armor and weapons that fit the themes of the builds that we are playing. I am a child of the 80s/90s and back in the day… it reminds me of the knock off toys that used to apply chrome to everything in an attempt to make it look cool, but it just made things look cheap. The bling… needs to take about 300 steps back and make some sets of armor that are grounded in the world.
Pets… I like, but you need to give them a function. Gold and Affix shard pickups, please. Right now they are just useless visual clutter.
Skill Effects. You’ve made a good step forward, but right now they are not significantly different enough in most cases to make them worth purchasing.
The PRICING is spot on, though. Your pricing is perfect for things. Like I said, I have bought every cosmetic pack just to support the game, but this is the time to be brutally honest with you, because the style of most of the cosmetics is just not that cool. If you raised the price from where you are now… I would probably stop buying them because I feel like I don’t enjoy them already.
I like your cosmetics, I bought a few packs but recently, I have to replace my cosmetics each time I log in.
I am a very simple and weird man.
I’ll buy pretty much anything that’s green. I’ve been holding playing off some skill/class/archetype just because of the color. Make a bunch of green wildfire MTX like in Game of Thrones and I’ll seriously play a fire character for the first time hahah.
But to provide a wider feedback, I think having a thematic spanning multiple skills of an archetype is really really great. The shattered ones are absolutely great, and so are the cosmic ones.
It’d be cool to always have a full armor set for a given thematic on top of the skills IMHO.
I’d personally like to see more nature-themed or necrotic-themed or poison-themed MTXs!
I just want more little creatures running around me, making cute sounds.
Aaaand:
- For variety, I’d like more effects for transformation skills. The poor lich in his specialization skill looks like a ghost from a graveyard.
- I don’t know how to draw or model, but I’m sure many people make their honest money doing this. If you give people the opportunity to express themselves creatively, you’ll attract more people to the project. Word may not spread immediately, but maybe this way you could find someone who could find a place in your company.
In any case, I want to see people’s work, and voting for the best work seems appropriate. - Gems. There are no events in the game…for now, but if they are added in the future, receiving a gem as a reward that changes the color of cosmetics or cosmetic effects could also attract more people to the game.
- Skills. Yes, I also like the skill cosmetics.
- Oh, and what about toys?
Maybe plushies?
This! I only use MTX to match skills and armor to a theme, especially color. For instance;
Voidbound Wandering Spirits and Amethyst Death Seal can match up, but there’s no other options for “purple skills” available to Acolyte.
Holy Multishot and Blood Shard Glacier look amazing, but there’s nothing that matches them available to Rogue and Mage, respectively.
The Shattered and Cosmic themes hit that mark way better and if you can combine them with an armor that has the same theme, now we’re talking.
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Which items do you feel offer the best value or appeal, and why?
I love portal cosmetics and have bought nearly every one. Seeing my portal come up after I clear an echo feels like a satisfying capstone to me, it’s highly noticeable, and is something I use often. -
Are there specific themes, styles, or item types you’d like to see more of? Less of?
I’d like to see a woodsman theme, something with flowers around my feet or butterflies around my head. Some of my favorite cosmetics from POE have counters which amplify the cosmetic in certain ways: a kill counter for a blood soaked cloak which sprays more blood the higher your kill streak is, armor which glows more brightly red as your strength stat increases. Maybe we could have cloaks which grow bigger and brighter depending on how many echoes we cleared?
Please don’t include wacky random things like clown hair or mecha; running around in POE1 or WoW or multiple FPS games after years of cosmetic drift is so jarring. I also prefer fewer flashy particle effects to be on at any point in time. -
Are there any items you’ve avoided purchasing, and what influenced that decision?
I really want the Realm Hopper’s Portal, Gilded Pestilence Mask, and Frozen Fang Mask, but my optimization brain keeps telling me to wait for a sale. I log in every few days even if I don’t play, hoping to get them. Even if I want something specific from the store, I feel like I’m doing something wrong by buying it at full price because I think a better price will be available. I bet an economist would have something to say about this.
I do the same. Green is my favorite color so I end up with anything nature or poison related.
I really need a golden katana
just came in to add a little more.
i’ve whaled a lot in POE and was tempted to whale in D4, which i didnt.
i bought some mtx in LE more of supporting the devs rather than “thats so cool”.
if we’re talking about money’s worth. LE’s mtx’s all fail in comparison to the likes of POE and D4.
its a harsh and unfair comparison. but when it comes to mtx i always have to be more crucial as it involves my real life money.
similar to real life “would i buy this shirt that costs x dollars” is a very serious consideration. admittedly LE’s mtx is affordable. but its not something i feel really worth my money. i m the type that would pay more for something i like rather than something cheap but looks decent. at the end of the day i want to be proud of what i wear.
in LE the feeling is more towards “that’s it?”. if people watch me play and i tell them i spent money to buy the look. theyd be scratching their heads. some games have armor thats in game that look better than what LE offers.
so whenever i see people say the mtx looks good or are worth it. i have to disagree. POE mtx usually makes people go WOW. rather than ooh cool.
-Which items do you feel offer the best value or appeal, and why?
- Finished sets of cosmetics, or a cosmetic that can fit well with other pieces of cosmetic gear.
- Unique or even “funny” looking skill MTX
- Anything to fit with a damage-type of a build im playing (i.e. Cold, Fire, Lightning, Void)
- More general: Either finished sets, or unusual cosmetics that still look awesome, even if they dont exactly fit anywhere.
-Are there specific themes, styles, or item types you’d like to see more of? Less of?
- I’d like to see the color spectrum more fleshed out. Theres currently some elements that dont have any fitting cosmetics really.
- Even though I mentioned I like fitting cosmetics for my damage types; if its just “neutral colors” (black-white, and one accent) it can just look so good I’d use it anywhere, regardless of my build choice.
- I don’t like the Primal stuff, just not my taste really. And compared to other stuff, it just doesnt look as “eye-catching”. even if the same amount of effort and care went into it, it doesnt appeal me in the slightest.
- I want to see more sets that interact with your gameplay or things happening around you, or with your character. (Being low-life covers you in more blood. Having high Mana makes you crackle with energy. plenty of options here, many more creative than mine)
- Character Effects. I love these. An “Aura” of sorts on your character, putting a certain effect around you at all times, or better yet as a body-wide trail of sorts.
- I want more Skill MTX. And possibly some darker ones. I sometimes get absolutely flashbanged by my gameplay, and I’d even pay money to make it be less horrendous on the eyes.
- Lastly but definetly NOT least: Color variety, this KINDA repeats a previous point. but what i mean is; “Oh, this set looks AWESOME. wish it was available in a different color however :(”
-Are there any items you’ve avoided purchasing, and what influenced that decision?
- Price. A lot of things are a bit too pricy for what they give me, but thats coming from someone who has to consider a purchase twice, regardless of price-range. cautious buyer. I’d argue, most cosmetics are worth about 25% less, than they cost right now. Perhaps the price is more justified if an MTX is really cool/unique.
- Looks. Oftentimes I see the effort and care put into an MTX, but I am just not appealed by it. Be it for thematic reason, or simply not a good enough execution of said theme.
- Skill MTX are a bit of a mixed bag. Some varry your visual A LOT, while others hardly make a diffrence. I wouldn’t dare purchase something that changes the color of my skeletons by 3 shades of gray. (while the Bee-meteor i’d almost wanna purchase TWICE)
- this is a short repeat of Question2, Answer7. I sometimes just dont like the color a given cosmetic is available in, and then I dont buy it
thank you for reading, highly appreciate you guys taking input on this topic. I would love to support the game more, but I’ve caught myself sitting on my store currency for ages, waiting for intruiging MTX to release. This season I already bought a LOT of MTX, compared to before. So theres definetly an improvement.
Its still a great choice to essentially ask “what do you guys WANT to spend money on?”
Hope it goes well!
Love you all at EHG, keep it up! Love your game