That’s not what he’s saying though. He’s saying that we now have more gold overall, between all players, than we did in 1.0, because of exploits. Which he doesn’t actually know.
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It’s funny because you seem to only get things the literal way… but only if it favors your argument.
I mean, did you try buying gold from any of those gold sellers? And if so, were you able to get gold from them?
And if not, how can you be sure those are “legitimate” gold sellers, and not just a scammer trying to get people to download malwares?
And I see you got quite a lot of gold yourself… are you really sure you didn’t buy gold from the sellers? 
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That is wrong on so many levels. First, so it harms the game only if actual exploits are present, cause more people use those exploits? But you just said all the exploits are fixed.
Second, ofcourse we should spread the dupe information as wide as possible, so it forces EHG to actually put any effort to prevent it in the future. We already had two dupes present this cycle, and I am positive there are much more severe exploits present looking at the economy, yet you still are dupe apologists for some reason.
Second, if more people start abusing exploit, then its good cause it forces EHG to actually fix the stuff faster lol.
So far every cycle there are dupes, and EHG saying that they fixed the dupe does not mean at all that other ones are not present.
I just made 4 posts comparing the generating power of raw gold versus the state of bazaar and price of actual items to convince you that the numbers do not add up and that it heavily indicates the dupes are still running wild, but you choose to defend EHG no matter what, and when inevitably we will find out about third, 10 times bigger dupes than 2 that were already fixed, you will just shrug and next cycle you will return to this same behaviour as now.
Classic, now accusations of buying RMT gold.
I have video on my youtube channel from 2 dayswhen i started farming uber abberoth (3 minute kill) , and recent one when im consistently killing him in two minutes. Each kill is around on average 15 million gold profit, and i already killed over 90 of them.
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They are now. If the exploit information isn’t public, devs can fix the exploit and there isn’t much exploited stuff to remove.
If it’s made public, then everyone and their mother will try it out and the amount of exploited stuff before the fix is much higher and it’s much harder to remove.
That is a very flawed logic. EHG already puts effort to prevent it. They don’t need you to incentivize them to do it. In fact, you spreading the information or not won’t change how they handle it, because they’re already doing all they can to prevent it.
You keep saying this, but there isn’t a single person that has defended any dupe. Honestly, you’re sounding more and more like a conspiracy theorist.
It doesn’t. But it’s also a lot more likely that they will be aware of any dupe way way before you ever do and work to fix it. So what are you actually trying to accomplish?
You didn’t. You made wild assumptions.
You yourself admitted to having over 1 billion gold already. Are you the only person in the game like that? Or are there hundreds of players that have also amassed billions already?
Are they all just sitting on that money? Are all sales that are happening made with exploited money?
You keep sounding like a conspiracy theorist. And like a wise man once said “There is no point in using reason to convince a conspiracy theorist because they didn’t use reason to reach their opinion”.
So I’ll just stop trying.
You keep repeating im conspiracy theorist. Yet every time since 1.0 when i was ‘crying’ about dupe being present, i was right.
Just like this time, market indicates artificially created gold is injected heavily into economy via the duping, and I will be inevitably be proven right, just like literally every time since 1.0.
Well, that’s a clear indication of what DJ is trying to get into your head…
People care more about spreading exploits than to actively report it to the Devs through official channels. It’s not Devs fault at all if people choose the former.
Maybe you should ask reddit to ban people who post about bug exploits in games? Cause Game developers have nothing to do about this kind of behavior people have.
That’s not an accusation at all. Maybe it was snarky, but I’m not at all accusing you of anything…
But then again, your only argument for the high prices in the market is because people are exploiting, and you can tell that because they have a lot of gold to buy inflated items. But you yourself got quite a lot of gold, capable of buying anything you need. And I know you’re not an exploiter. So what makes you so special? Why can’t other people get the same gold as you without exploits?
Remember, if you think you’re a hardcore gamer, be sure there’s always someone in the world who games harder than you do.
Because the gold i have, over 1 billion, is 98% gained from selling items, and only 2% from raw gold that i farmed. Now imagine a lot other people like me that have that amount of gold that was obviously gained by selling great items, and not farming raw gold, which is impossible in that amount. But that gold that we have, had to be farmed RAW by someone else, right? Cause we didn’t generate it by ourselves, we just sold items and someone else paid with the gold that had to be generated by echoes.
So if you take 100 players like me with 1 billion gold, it means other people had to actually farm 100 bilion RAW gold, to buy items from us.
You see where I’m going there? If I, and plenty of other people have that absurd amount of gold, someone had to generate it via echoes / bosses / game mechanics. My arguement simply is, current gold acquisition isnt high enough to warrant that items sell for that high, and it was in my opinion artificially injected by gold duping.
You gotta make up your mind…
Do you want or don’t want more gold exploiters? It doesn’t add up…
You say gold exploiters kill the game in a couple days, but then you want more exploiters to make it so the devs are forced to do something, even though the game might be dead faster if there are more exploiters?
I don’t. I just want EHG to take merchant’s guild seriously. PoE 1 is much more complex game, and they didn’t have a serious dupe in 10 years. EHG with enough effort could do the same, if there is enough outrage from the community, and that is why I am so mad at people like the guy i was discussing with, who defends EHG no matter what, even if time and time again he happens to be wrong about dupes, which happen so far every cycle.
Not necessarily. If “people” think an exploit exists and that “everyone else” has more swimming pools of gold than Scrouge McDuck then they’ll price their items higher than if they didn’t think that was the case. And because they priced their items way too high, they don’t sell (which pisses the player off) & everyone else sees the high prices & wants some of that cheddar, so they price their items similarly & you end up with a bunch of over priced items. Is that good for the game?
No, that’s just you being a massive dick. It’s like saying “hmmm, I think there’s lots of looting around here so I’m going to go loot some shops just to make sure the police know about it & force them to do something about it”.
Making the situation worse for everyone never .akes the situation better.
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Ok. I see where all this is coming from now…
POE had no serious dupes in 10 years? Geez, you’re just not serious.
Cya
Where exactly is it coming from? I am not GGG apologist, they massively screwed up on abandoing PoE 1 for the disappointing sequel that we had, but except the divine dupe from like 2.5 years ago for 5 hours in sanctum, i do not recall anything even close to the severity as any of the EHG dupes.
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No one denied there was a dupe in 1.0. Or in 1.1. Or the current ones.
And yes, there are likely still some in the game. Just like there are likely still some in PoE. And in D4. And in WoW. And in any game that has trading.
The difference is that EHG needed a longer time to fix the exploits and the results of it in 1.0 than they do now.
It might. It might not. You’re making assumptions without actually having facts. Players spreading panic about dupes also increases inflation.
When the devs say they fixed the exploit and removed the exploited stuff, I tend to believe them. And think that this is instead because of the market being speculative in nature and players being panic-driven mobs.
And just to fall back on this. EHG was very likely already aware of this before it was posted. But fixes take time. Programming isn’t instant. So if there was no public post about it, EHG would have still fixed it and barely anything would have been exploited.
EHG already monitors the amount of gold being generated. They know of this a lot sooner than you do. And they start working on fixing it before you start shouting this to the skies.
All this does is increase the effort they will have to take to remove the exploited stuff after they’re done fixing it.
Is it? Are you an exception? Are you the only player that can ever sell that amount? Or is it possible that, like in real life, the currency always ends up in the hands of the 1%?
And 1%, lowballing it, would mean that 5k players have made the same money as you have. In a legit manner.
You are certainly aware that the average player farms 1M but doesn’t actually have 1M because they spent it on gear? And that that money will end up in the hands of players like you?
This is false. There are dupes and exploits happening very often. It even led to the motto said by many streamers “Exploit hard, exploit fast”. Because they know they won’t be banned for it.
GGG just acts fast on it and removes the duped stuff fast before most people are aware of it. And because the PoE community, as a whole, usually doesn’t spread exploit information publicly. (and GGG tends to ban posts that do).
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You are waisting time here. Ive blocked all these ehg team def at all costs users. Facts are too hard. Ppl are not generating as much gold as needed for current prices. But it is what it is. Whatever
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shattered worlds 1 lp, that i farm every 3 hours, sells for 400 milion minimum now instantly xD
red rings 1lp 500mil
shattered chains 1lp that drops like candies 10m+