Upcoming bug-fix to Ballista

Nop.

Yep.

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Hahahaha yep

U still here ?

I left the cycle, Iā€™m still using the forums as you can see. Have you got more useless questions?

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Were you born as whining baby, or did that developed over the years ?

The only one who is giving the impression of being a child here is you.

You are the one crying about skill being broken for 6 days. Everytime I come to forum to read something meaningfull, you come to every single post bitching how LE is bad bla bla. Please let the rest of us enjoy, if you already left.

Nevermind - I just found out that I can put you on ā€œignoreā€ have a good life

Iā€™m arguing in a forum. If you want to call it ā€œcryingā€ thatā€™s up to you even if itā€™s not accurate since there are no tears that are leaving my eyes.

I never said the game is bad. This is your invention.
If I criticise certain choices and discuss them, it is because I am free to do so.

Finally.

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*fixed bugs, not nerfed.

Try choosing a build that is not exploiting an obviously bugged interaction. There are ridicuolusly strong builds that donā€™t rely on bugs.

Sadly, its still bugged, just now in the opposite direction.
Wonder if this will get fixed mid-cycle, now that the excuse to nerf isnā€™t there.

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So in future, when you want to nerf, youā€™ll invoke a bug?

Here itā€™s clearly a hidden nerf, admit it and itā€™ll go down betterā€¦

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Hey Stonesly, welcome to our community. What a nice way to introduce yourself.

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Ballista isnt an area skill in the tags but it should very well be one and you even mentioned other sources of increased area ā€¦ I have increased area on my gloves and amulet but see no change in the areaā€¦ Is this a bug? I hope it is because it is a valid skill playā€¦ Much dmg is sacrified if one chooses to replace an affix with increase area to get the same full screen explosion playstyle meaning it will not be as effective to push higher corruption with this build

Wdym? The radius was a bug that was not working as intendedā€¦ You arenā€™t losing any damageā€¦ You just need to tweak it around for less dmg to work around it and probably notch down a few corruptions.

Most builds die in few shots anyway in high corruption Just play safer and possibly best with a front liner but build is definitely still strong but definitely went down in the ranksā€¦

I just hope they can add the area, @EHG_Kain tag to it which should be and maybe it can help up acheive the same full screen style play as before. Some people can ask whats the point for full screen 2 click but they need to understand that eventually you will hit a wall that you wonā€™t clear fast enough and you die. If you are to swap out gear for area affixes, you are losing a lot of damage thus not being as effective solo pushing and bossing.

Please concentrate on fixing bugs that are making builds under perform or not work at all before you target things people like. Itā€™s crazy how many bugs are making builds worse or non functional and yet all I see are fixes for ones that work better than intended in a game thatā€™s PvE.

Iā€™m not arguing that OP builds should be nerfed. Iā€™m arguing that exploding ballistas is still very much OP/strong/whatever and this nerf isnā€™t really of any consequence. Itā€™s still fun to play.

Please make Aura of decay more visible
I cant see 8f mobs are in range or not.
Thambs u for the fixes u have done so far!

I agree, i would prefer to see some up for underperfoming skills or reworking unique.
I mean, sure itā€™s a good idea to fix bug but i prefer when our fun is the priority

So I was curious, and analyzed the posts in this thread, to see where the ā€œvocal minorityā€ truly was.

There were 151 unique posters, with 86 supporting the fix (57%), 52 opposed (34%), and 13 neutral (9%). I obviously made judgement calls but where relevant I leaned towards negative to attempt to counteract my own biases. For example I counted Adocus as neutral though I suspect they support the fix, and counted Ghostlight as opposed despite the disclaimer that they didnā€™t really care, since the overall sentiment still seemed more in line with those who opposed it.

Those in favor were more likely to have post counts of 20+ with HorusKBZ (37), LividLegends (30), BingoRLY (28), D4rw1n1s7 (23) all above that mark and Folks only 1 off at 19. In total 311 posts were made by those in favor with an average of 3.61 posts per person.

Those opposed made more posts per person on average with 5.288 and 275 total posts, but those numbers are heavily skewed by T3SH posting 132 times. The second highest post count of those opposed was Forever9801 with 13 for comparison.

Adocus was the highest post count of those I could not comfortably assign a position with 4 posts, all told there were 18 posts by those who were deemed neutral for 1.38 posts per person on average.

Why do all this? Just for perspective I suppose. All told weā€™re only looking at the opinions of 151 people of the entirety of those playing the game. In general, players do indeed support the fix, as would be expected based on the survey results. But those opposed represent more than just a handful, itā€™s roughly 1/3 of those who expressed an opinion overall and 52 people in total. The perception that itā€™s just a few people upset is largely driven by confirmation bias and of course T3SH accounting for literally half of all posts from those opposed to the fix. Meanwhile the perception that most people donā€™t want the fix and itā€™s just a vocal minority who expressed a desire for this isnā€™t borne out by the statistics, just the opposite in fact, itā€™s a relatively speaking more silent majority.

And frankly it didnā€™t take long to do. It only took a few words of reading to validate someoneā€™s opinion hadnā€™t changed or establish what their opinion was in most cases, the vast majority of posts I skimmed at most. After all, as expected, after 605 posts the number of posters where their opinion changed and I had to make a decision as to whether to move them over to the other side or split their posts or something was exactly 0. Hundreds of posts, tens of thousands of words spilled, and absolutely no oneā€™s mind was changed.

Which I think is the biggest takeaway. Itā€™s cool to note that folks perceptions tend to warp how they view those who disagree with them and they tend to reflexively minimize the count or scope of disagreement (on both sides of even a trivial issue like this), but far more importantly, once youā€™ve expressed your opinion arguing with those who disagree with you is always a total waste of breath. Do it if you find it fun but no oneā€™s mind will ever be changed by someone on the internet.

Oh, and as to my own opinion? Yeah, bug fixes are good things. No, not everything can be classified as a bug, if itā€™s something where the thing does not work as described itā€™s a bug, and otherwise itā€™s not, you canā€™t magically make anything you want into a bug. And yes, geometry is real and has actual meaning, itā€™s not some fictional concept or nebulous thing where it can be whatever you want it to be and can be ā€œmade upā€ arbitrarily. I wouldnā€™t expect any of those to be controversial stances, but here we are.

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