TOP 10 Point Plan to Save LE

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Look its bad. We all know it. You can see the review bombing in steam where the game is at mostly negative on recent.

We need to identify what happened and address it. We need to be open and honest.
LE is nosediving because of several factors. I list them here:

1] Krafton is going back on EGHs word on no paid content for the game.
2] Last Epoch is a buggy mess.
3] Communication by EHG has dropped off.
4] Awful road map
5] The competition in ARPG is tight.
6] LE lost its independent status. Cant do much about this unless Krafton says its going to be more like tencent here and be hands off to EHG.

How to combat this and turn the game around after this?

Well here is how you can do it:

**1] Krafton needs to backtrack and keep EHG promise on no paid content. Immediately announce the new expansion and the new heroes will be free. Apologize and offer some gifts like free Epoch Points. You gotta get the trust back.

2] Get the game in working order. Whatever it takes. Ask for some testers and give them tons of free MTX and such. The game is such a buggy mess that you dont know what works and doesnt for items, passives, skills ect.

3] Start being totally honest and open again. Dont bury your heads in the sand or ghost anymore.

4] Do a new road map. You realize your old road map lists nothing specific for next seasons then says subject to change underneath? You realize how bad this looks? Do a proper roadmap with some real hype generation. Include some free stuff for the community that you have neglected. A sort of apology gift that is coming.

5] Treat Season 4 like its your last season. If S4 is weak or doesnt hit or is super buggy like others its over. You will never recover. You have to put out an unreal good product on S4.

6] Cut costs. The season model as it is now might have to go. Instead focus on improving and adding to the game permanently. Change seasons to come crazy rules that last 3 months. This would be way easier to implement and save a ton on costs and still give a season type feeling. I give 5 examples:

Season of Yin and Yang: Items / runes have a chance to drop as copied pairs. Bosses also can be in pairs as well as nemesis encounters and special chests.

Season of the 2 headed Ettin: Players have 2 helm slots. Helms always drop with at least 50 forging potential and can have Tier 8 mods.

Season of 5 Golden Rings. Players have 5 ring slots. A new vendor is added that will accept any 3 same rarity items for a random ring of same rarity.

Season of Greater Potential. All items drop with at least 1 Legendary Potential. Items can have 5 legendary potential. Sealed affixes can be chosen as legendary potential targets. The chance to find items of 2 or higher LP is vastly increased.

Season of the Echoing Past. All restrictions on placed woven echoes for drops are gone. Woven echoes cost 33% less. Go nuts!

7 - 10 is how LE can monetize the game in a successful way.

7] Sell way more in shop. I want everything being sold.
A] Sell storage. I hate that at start of season I need to farm tons of gold to store items. It would be nice to have storage sold in shop that you start with each season. There are so many options here where you could sell special storage like POE 2 does.

B] Every single skill in the game should have at least a couple alternate cosmetic art effects and these should be flashy and desirable.

C] Mounts are very popular and generate tons of sales. Why dont we have mounts?

D] Way more armors, weapons, ect. Every color covered. PPL want to match their element type to their cosmetic. If you are a fireball mage you want a fireball looking char. Every build should have an option in shop to do this.

E] Profile frames. How long is this going to be empty and say coming soon??? Its been years.

F] Footprint effects. Shop only has a handful of these.

G] New supporter packs. Get some new stuff in there with some out of this world rewards.

8] Update your MTX. LE MTX is falling behind others. It doesnt pop. It doesnt look good enough. It looks like it needs a high def mod installed. This is a huge reason why MTX sales are failing.

9] Add pet effects to the game. Each pet would have an ability it uses often and an ultimate on a high cooldown and a passive. This gives them utility and purpose. Then to keep your promise on no paid content you make earnable pets of each archtype in the game and then sell versions of all pets that are flashy and awesome. This is ok to do!

10] Do collabs that bring themed MTX to store for limited time. This generates buzz and ppl will buy if its good limited MTX.

IF they can do all this then we need to do our part and give them positive reviews. A continued negative review bomb will kill the game eventually and we dont want that.

Hope this halps! What you think forum goers?

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What would be the use of mounts in LE? It consists of several small areas. There are no big areas to traverse.

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That is exactly what they are trying to do: Ninety-Nine little bugs on the wall

We even have 2 more aseasons at minnim before the “paid content” even comes around.

That makes no sense. Everything they did is already permanent, they are no temporary mechancs as of right now.

Also your suggestions are very very weak as a season and would cause tremendous outrage that they sell this little uninspired stuff as the season mechanic.

That would cause another outrage, if they add more premikum stuff to the shop that is not purely cosmetics people will be even more pissed than they are.

Also they already planing to add way mroe MTX to the shop, that is what this thread was for:

Would cause even more outrage, especially if they don’t have unified abilities and everybody has the same pet abilities and everybody can earn one with ingame means without being premium.

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  1. giving out handouts and not charging for content will see the shut down of this game just as much as if EHG handy received an influx of cash from Krafton. Goodwill alone is not enough to keep a company afloat.

  2. Yup, the game isn’t in a particularly finished state. Id personally like a detailed pre-patch note saying what is changing, being fixed, etc, but it’s safer to not say anything that may have to walked back. Gifting testers MTX comes with the problem of people using test realms for freebies without contributing to the test side of things.

  3. ignoring the forums is not a good look, no arguments there. Every time they have announced something recently it’s been met with an angry mob. Anything they could say would sound flowery and manufactured because they can’t give specific details regarding the expansion or the dlc character.

  4. I see a pattern of free stuff please. The roadmap is disappointing and has virtually no information on it. The most we got is that there will be seasons before the expansion launch.

  5. live service games live on changing up the content frequently. Unless you want only content updates in expansions, which you don’t want to pay for, then seasons should stick around.

  6. pretty sure every seasons additions are permanent. Cutting costs though absolutely. If they have staff that aren’t contributing to the benefit of EHG, they should be let go. Shrink your employment to a manageable state, put out quality content, and then rebuild as necessary.

7 - 8) yes, higher quantity and quality. They can do this one anyways.

  1. this kind of reads as a pay for advantage. You get boosted by being able to buy the pet that is the most useful/powerful, giving you an advantage over those who would presumably take a long time to earn there’s to make the store sales feel worth it. The balance around it would also be a nightmare.

  2. limited time MTX is seen as predatory, since it attempts to play on the fear of missing out. They also have done this the last 2 seasons in twitch streams with a few seasonal inspired goodies.

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  1. I would say is to shut down the multiplayer aspect of it. Use only one server for the market place.
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And have it flodded with 4xt8 affix items? Assuming I understood your suggestion to have everyone’s save files on their machines (& thus editable) but still have trade.

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I don’t know if the game checks for the amount of T8 affixes you have and disable them. I’d assume you can’t even really make those, even editing, because T8’s are sealed in a special “affix slot”.
But you could edit a T8+4xT7+T5. That is something you could theoretically do.

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0 support for any part of my plan. Steam recent just went to overwhelmingly negative. Forums are dying. This game is falling like a rock and somebody at Krafton or EGH needs to do something. This review bombing keeps up and you will hit mixed status on reviews. Hitting mixed is a death knell for your game. Its over if you hit mixed overall. You hit mixed at around 69% so you got maybe a month left or maybe two.

You need to start righting wrongs or its over. Start with fixing broken promises.

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this is ideal, but the reality is we need stuff to sell. and in your later points you even say you want them to sell stashes. so its kinda going against your own point.

the biggest way to cut costs is to tone down or put a hold on seasonal content. impactful seasonal content requires a lot of cash.

if the game is F2P, i would say yeah. but it isnt. so its not something players would accept.

very on the nose. i personally dislike the art direction of LE. a lot of my friends too. but effect cosmetics are usually divorced from general art direction and can push people to just buy effects.

i find mounts cool AF NGL. but. the existence of mounts means theres a lot of terrain to cover and that would require the game areas to be made bigger. also mounts usually require a “mounting/summon” time/animation which can feel VERY tedious very quickly.

i bet MOST of us rather have our characters have more movespeed rather than having to rely on mounts. i agree mounts are cool but i hate mounts because it forces the game devs to make our experience worse in order to give them value.

on one hand i agree with you that more choices are good. but on another, i think a huge problem is not enough players are buying LE cosmetics to begin with. my biggest hint is the art direction. a lot of my friends simply label LE as ugly. even myself, i bought some mtx but i dont feel it was worth my money. i bought it to support the devs other than anything else.

objectively speaking, disregarding the gameplay/mechanics/supporting the devs. if a player had 90 usd of disposable income to spend on mtx and could choose any mtx from d4/poe/le which mtxs would the player most likely buy? my bet is not LE.

yeap totally agree but its not the mtx, its the overall art direction. i can appreciate how LE looks right now. but that is being VERY generous.

hard no for me. you’re introducing a p2w concept to the game. i prefer if the game has the least amount of p2w as possible.

lmao we’re talking about krafton, the publisher behind PUBG which has tons of crossover mtxs.

so it COULD happen. the question would be, do the players want them? some prefer the game to be more grounded in the relevant fantasy. like myself. when MTG did crossovers, i felt that it took away a lot of the MAGIC that the game had. now i can summon ryu and ken to fight godzilla in mtg. it feels like a kids game now and breaks the immersion that it once had. for sure its just a game but its a great disservice to the game’s rich setting.

despite not liking the artstyle, LE has a very rich and unique game setting. it has a very unique story and if i m being honest is much more well thought out than POE1. i do realize thats a low bar to clear as POE1’s story is laughable as it was just cobbled together to give players a reason to kill things. POE2’s story on the other hand is juicy. but that aside. LE has its own distinct setting that sets itself apart from diablo/poe.

that might be reduced if crossovers are introduced.

BUT despite saying that. if crossovers bring in the money. just add em in.

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tbh, i wouldnt mind this. just make the game offline only to save costs. let players connect directly to other players to multiplay.

and make the droprates much more single player friendly.

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They wouldn’t have to, everyone would be CoF, which is already single player friendly.

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its is, i wont ever deny that. just that i prefer if cof wasnt a thing and the games drops were balanced around single player entirely (more generous). and with more ways to influence your item drops directly without needing to farm favour and do quests. the game actually does this with the imprints and certain blessings. just that i do feel that its still is a tad too grindy to get what i m looking for.

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I just can’t keep this bottled in any longer. A lot of people are saying that MTX is comparatively bad. We had this thread: Your Cosmetic Feedback Could Shape What’s Next in Last Epoch end of October. I browsed through them and found hardly anyone posting their desire about more delicate fantasy stuff. Except one guy that’d like “Gore and Cosmic/Stellar themes”.
But also this leak in November, so the thread and that back/wings MTX are likely not connected. But holy does it look bad and boring imo. Am I playing a space flower / butterfly? It makes no sense to me. I would never buy something like this and even be annoyed seeing someone else wear it. Sure it’s subjective, but it feels like 80% of the LE store is filled with this stuff.