You can play on Steam Deck. What kind of wedding did you go to that didn’t offer Steam Decks to everyone? You should get better friends.
A family one (groom’s family) & we’ve been mostly ignored by the bride & groom. If I could come home early I probably would…
Ok, so new update and a call to the think tank on how to upgrade this. It’s going to be a longish post, because I’ll break it down section by section.
First, how it’s going:
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ApZ2X2LB
Still farming 730c, trying to get blessings with good rolls.
Echoes are piss easy. I basically stutter walk (holding down left and right click so I walk a bit between casts) for a bit to maintain 20-30 stacks and get haste from Maelstrom, place a vine for rage regen and then run for a bit and everything melts. I can tank pretty much everything, including champions, mages, nemesis and rift beasts.
Doing Lagon right now and he dies like a little b**ch. His whole health is gone before he even tries to do the sweep attack and I get teleported down before it even reaches me.
The Harbinger sometimes one shots me with the beam attack (6.5k damage), but when I stutter walk I can avoid it, so that’s not an issue. I can sometimes tank it as well, and I usually tank all other attacks as well.
Shade has killed me 3 times in a row, though part of it is because I suck at boss mechanics . If I stutter step less and only bring stacks up in safer situations, it’s doable, but lots of attacks can’t be tanked.
For giggles I tried Uby. I got him to the first ward in about 15-20s. Then I died to something or other (I think the void “corridor” he dropped on me?). It was the first time I tried him and I don’t know the mechanics. The fact that we can evade without losing much DPS makes me think that a player that has good knowledge of the fight can kill him kinda easy.
Not a 1 minute kill, though. That’s for sure. It will probably be about 3-5 minutes, depending on how much you need to evade and how many stacks you lose doing so.
Although I can get attunement up to at least 150, so that would be a 50% damage increase, which would make it easier.
I could easily do 1k+, if I could get tankier. So what can I do to improve?
Passives:
I don’t think I can get much more tankiness from it. I’m currently way overcapped on endurance, which I intend to fix with some gear changes. Currently at 3.3k health (which can still be improved) and 1.2k threshold.
When I use evade (which I often forget) I get 15% DR from aspect of the boar.
I don’t see any other passives I can take to help me survive more.
Skills:
I don’t think I can squeeze more out of Maelstrom, Eterra’s Blessing and Spriggan form.
The other 2 skills are useless because very little interacts with Spriggan Form. I never even bother summoning the Spriggan because he keeps dying and sometimes mobs face the other way to attack him. I rarely use bear form either.
If I had 4 more points I could reach the thorn totems node, which would allow me to maintain rage with them and drop the amulet, but I don’t think that’s possible.
Blessings:
I don’t think I can change much, to be honest. I could switch the endurance blessing for armor, but I already reach armor cap anyway and this would allow me to change something in the gear. All I can get are better rolls (they’re not great yet).
Idols:
They’re mostly to give health and fix resistances. A few reflect ones, since those are hard to find. Although the total damage from reflect idols, if I had all of them with it maxed, would be about 20% increase in damage overall, so not too impactful. I’d rather use them for health/resists.
Gear:
-Helmet:
I don’t see a better option to Seed. The mana nodes do nothing, since we have none, but the threshold and the chance to get 0 damage are good. Need more LP so I can add more affixes, but they’re hard to get with 2LP+.
Amulet:
Necessary for rage regen. If I could get more Spriggan Form levels I could switch to thorn totem regen, but I don’t think that’s doable and I need all the current nodes. Needs more LP, although only health regen is useful to me in amulets.
Weapon:
I don’t think there’s a better option. The chance to cast Thorn Shield is too good to give up, since Thorn Shield itself counts as a physical skill, so we’ll get double casts often, which is a great DPS increase. I also don’t think I can get better affixes. None of them scale our damage or boosts our defenses. Even the mana cost is kinda irrelevant since vines cover all our needed regen. We don’t hit and we don’t even get on kill effects (guess they die by themselves. “Why are you hitting yourself?” )
Chest:
Well, nothing much to say here. It’s our defining item. Need better rolls and more LP so I can slam Attunement and health. Maybe even drop the flat reflect, since that’s about 10% of our damage.
Shield:
Nothing to say about it either. Build will suck without it. Also needs more LP so I can slam more health. Maybe even drop flat reflect for block chance.
Rings:
Red rings seem like the only option here. I’ve only found one. Imprinted it in the 2 nodes I can in the weaver tree, waiting for the second one. Preferably with 1LP so I can slam attunement in them.
Belt:
Legacy of the forest does nothing for the build. All it does is let you stay idle without going back to human form. Brewmaster’s Buckle seems like the best option.
Gloves:
Trying to find a Ravenous Void I can slam attunement into. I have one with Cast Speed (which I think is preferable, since it boosts both offence and defense), but with the current stats on gear, I need the attributes to get to 180 for red rings. Currently sitting at a total of 185. Ideal would be a 2LP with both.
Boots:
Foot of the mountain does nothing for the build. It’s incompatible with Aspect of the Boar, we’re overcapped on endurance and the cost reduction is meaningless. Currently still there because of attributes and because I got a 3LP which landed 2 nice affixes.
For options I think I only have 2:
Eterra’s path gives health, movement speed and it has the QoL of casting vines for rage regen on its own. Only have 1LP at the moment, needs at least 3LP.
Best option seems to be Advent of the erased, mostly because of the 35% reduction to DoTs (we always have haste and frenzy because of Maelstrom stacks). But getting one to roll with T7 Attunement + cast speed + health seems like it will take some time.
Lastly, the relic:
Again, I don’t see many alternatives that will benefit the build. The one I have rolled with +3 Spriggan Form and T7 cast speed, which is very good. The +4 to Spriggan are definitely important. The only point I could currently drop in the tree is the bear transform, since I rarely use it anyway, but a point alone won’t make much difference at this point. Only another +4 would.
So that’s it. The build definitely can do damage. It just doesn’t have much survivability against bosses. Any thoughts on how to improve or did I reach the limit, other than just min-maxing LP and stuff?
It seems your Crit Avoidance is missing. You only have 7 points in Harmonious Wisdom (Druid), and your Spriggan doesn’t have the Crit Avoidance aura
I’d get Dodge Rating.
- Spec Spriggan into Aura of Evasion. 99 * 4 = 396 flat Dodge.
- Replace HP blessing with flat Dodge, up to +200.
- Farm for a higher LP amulet, get flat Dodge and %inc Dodge on it.
This gets boosted by Maelstrom stacks.
It should put you only around 30-40% Dodge Chance, but the real reason we do it is the conversion from Foot of the Mountain. Goal is to cover your whole HP bar in Endurance Threshold. And you can always try to get more Dodge if you want to
Blind was changed to be 100% chance to not crit iirc, which means this build which perma blinds the whole screen cant be crit in any realistic situation.
Also parry is good to add too, swapping to maybe a t5 cast speed + t7 parry results in 12% chance to not take damage, pretty good.
The chest blinds all enemies, I can’t be crit.
Spriggan can’t stay alive at high corruption. I never bother summoning him anymore. It’s only specced because there’s nothing else and I don’t like seeing the empty slot.
And without Spriggan we don’t get much total dodge to be worth it.
I think replacing the boots would be better, especially because in the hard fights I can’t just stand still. Preferably with Advent, but since that one is very hard to roll properly, Eterra’s seems to be the next best option for some QoL.
This is a good suggestion. Especially because the mana cost reduction is irrelevant.
Actually, no. Parry can’t roll on sceptres. I did go through all the affixes available and I didn’t find anything else that seemed useful, so I was finding it strange I wouldn’t have noticed that.
EDIT: it can only roll on melee weapons.
ohhh thats a shame actually lol.
Yeah, I don’t trust Blind
Since Spriggan is not used, why not Warcry? Bear’s Roar uses Warcry tree. There’s +4 Maelstrom stacks per Roar, 1s invulnerability, healing, cleanse … and Frailty that lasts for 10 s instead of 4s for some reason
Seems to work fine. I haven’t had a single crit since using the chest. Only way I could be crit would be from a mob attacking me and not facing me. The only one I’ve found that does this so far is the new beetle (or whatever) that shoots stuff out of its butt, and that one is irrelevant.
As soon as a mob is visible on screen and facing me to attack, it’s immediately blinded. Crit isn’t an issue.
I can’t trigger warcry in Spriggan Form, though. It’s a very limited transformation. I would have to switch to bear for it (so the 1s invuln wouldn’t be useful) and I’d lose the constant healing and cleansing from Eterra’s Blessing, as well as several thorn shield stacks, which not only give me DPS, they also give me armor allowing me to reach armor cap.
I can get ubby down to about half hp currently, but I dont think there is much more juice to squeeze, The damage is fine for clearing and im at like 800ish corruption and damage seems fine, so 1k should be possible no problems.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AVKgJ80Q
There is some minor improvements possible, my idols are all 100+ most are 110+, but I could get a few more 130s to eek out some damage, a 3lp shield could have reflect + block + phys res, again eeking out a little bit of extra reflect, but more realistic and better would be something like t7 reflect + t6 block chance.
I think ubberoth is doable assuming I played well, but I unfortunately just cant stand that fight its just too much of a clusterduck.
And I dont think id have as much success on a primalist, but I might level one up just to see how it feels.
800c abom + harbinger
The problem with this is that all the flat reflect from idols, chest and shield will add up to about 5k. Flat reflect from thorn shield with 40 stacks is about 1400 per stack, or 56k total.
This means that all of the idol and affixes are just adding about 7% total damage.
So Paladin can get much more tanky (which is my current issue), but if we solve the Spriggan survivability it should be able to deal with Uby without much issues.
40 stacks is 8k, you get 200 per thorn shield.
Where you getting 1400?
Which dont get me wrong, 8k is still more then double my damage.
I think spriggan def is uber viable but the amount of gear and skill you will need is… rough lol.
Thorn shield scales with attunement, at 4% per point.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/skills/thorn_shield
Yeah thats only its own hit damage.
Reflect is purely ONLY the stat in the character screen that says “Damage reflect to attackers”
which does not scale with anything other then the thornshell.
I see. I guess that makes sense.
Still, being able to do twice or three times the damage should make Uby more manageable, since the fight won’t last as long. But making Spriggan tanky is a chore.
Yeah thats the dilemma haha.
im not convinced its even a tank issue but a pilot issue situation, where you just will have to play really well to win.
something I noticed immediately in the fight is you need to play at weird angles. most builds just circle strafe him in a corner and pull him around hte edges, this does not work for us because we need him to be looking at us, so when he is charging around we lose damage uptime. And being directly in from of him is… dangerous to say the least.
In my case it’s definitely a pilot issue as well. I’ve died quite a few times that could have been avoided by better positioning. But that’s mostly because I’m lazy
But on my void warpath VK I could tank almost everything while being lazy as well. And I tanked hits that Spriggan simply doesn’t. A good example is Aby’s (not Uby’s) first attack with the expanding pool. Spriggan will die (even though Spriggan does high corruption a lot easier than VK) while the VK just keeps spinning and leeching.
I also remembered an issue where Spriggan, despite having much higher damage and lower survivability, might actually also lose a lot compared to Sentinel (or any other class) and that is the need to constantly keep thorn shields up.
If you’re evading a lot then the stacks will fall quickly and you’ll lose DPS. And if you’re casting them a lot, even with stutter step, then you’re evading a lot less.
So overall, while Spriggan does have the potential for it, the limited survivability actually makes it worse than tankier classes, despite the DPS difference.
But hey, at the very least the chest is a pretty good leveling chest.
How are you overcapped on endurance threashold? You said you have 3.3k hp & 1.2k threashold.