Remove smart loot from MG characters. Ty 
Fun fact is that some chasing itens have a far worse drop rate now, even with CoF.
Mad alchemist Laddle is super rare, I have done about 100 exiled mages and have not dropped a single one.
And also exalted experimental affixes. Not a single experimental affix from these 100 mages were exalted.
And boss drops are about the same drop rate to have LP, which is is an endurance ride to get some of them with 1 or 2 LP. Specially 2LP ones, should not be that difficult as it was before 1.0 for a full ranked CoF player.
If you want better drop rates, play CoF. You can’t have it both ways.
You ask how so OP builds ruin the game for others? Imagine people blasting through 1500 corruption in merchants guild, flooding the market with best drops and setting the prices while other classes only collect scraps they can afford there. That’s exactly what this thread says xd
You’re right, I’m playing Beastmaster 653 corruption.
People only go for finished builds, at maxroll maybe icey veins. If you don’t want to use the rest of your brain and aren’t even able to look for alternative builds, if you don’t want to think for yourself, then you’ll only see 3 or 4 builds.
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I am certainly not the guy to talk to about it then, lol. I’ve had incredible luck with Exiled Mages. I got T7 haste on Traversal use on haste effect boots really early into leveling my 1st character and have two Mad Alchemist Ladels, one with 1 LP and one with 2 LP.
So anecdotally, you and I are the opposite ends of the spectrum. Which, if we are to believe random is random, can happen.
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I believe this has nothing to do with the RNG aspect of the game.
Are you consistently getting this drops or was it a lucky strike ?
Pre 1.0 we had a given drop rate, and after 1.0 it’s a new nerfed drop rate.
Anyone that played the game before 1.0 can tell that it was much easier to get those drops (mad alchemist laddle or an exalted experimental affix).
I know RNG is RNG but any day playing I could chase these things. Sometimes I used to get one or two, sometimes I could get lots of them.
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I get Exalted experimental affixes quite often, yes. I haven’t gotten more than 2 Mad Alchemist Ladels though.
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You didn’t say that, but you will typically have people in every thread like this taking your message out of context just to argue a point no one is making.
You will also have people pretending balance doesn’t matter because it’s something they can live without (though they seemingly can’t live without having an opinion about it).
Then, when you try to defend yourself from this nonsense, they’ll call you an asshole, while adding nothing else of consequence to the conversation.
Balance is a problem. Many people are aggravated by this. Those attempting to gaslight the situation aren’t helping anyone. Including themselves.
Thanks for sharing your experience, I’m trying to gather as much info as possible, and I know that no matter how much info Im compiling it will be statistically insignificant, but my droprate of exalted experimental items is zero.
I’m playing cycle since release, and although I’m a casual player, I play almost everyday, some days 1 or 2 hours, some days about 4hours and others the whole day (8-9 hours).
I havent seen a single exalted experimental affix.
It’s disheartening for me since I’m chasing a very specific experimental affix ( missing hp conversion to ward).
And everytime I try to talk about this (some weird bug, something not being correctly triggered at higher corruption or in legacy chars) I get completely dismissed because everyone judges it as a random rant and that I don’t understand the RNG of the drops.
The problem is not getting the exact thing I want, the problem is that I don’t get any type of these affixes ( being exalted).
You mean besides that you enjoy and have more fun playing the other classes, right?
There’s no competition here. There are no stakes. If some random jabroni is blasting through 7 billion corruption bosses, it has no effect on your ability to play whatever you want whatsoever.
“No but the market!!!” What about the market? You all keep saying these words and I don’t think you actually have any idea what they mean, which is nothing. I’ve been playing “off-meta” bullshit builds since release and have had zero problems buying what I want or need. The trick is that I’m not trying to immediately jump from campaign rares to the mathematically best possible items in the game that I don’t even actually need to accomplish anything.
Some of y’all would enjoy games a lot more if you stopped treating them like a proxy for the sense of accomplishment you lack in real life or a flashy UI for balancing your checkbook.
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The market is deeply impacted by this. Non-meta builds’ items are prices as if they were the meta builds’ items, but those playing non-meta can’t afford to buy them.
Its only consolidating around the three becaue people are too afraid to branch out.
They are grown-ups with jobs and don’t have time to keep releveling new characters every time they want to try the same class with slightly different spells…
Maybe advocate for the free, or even one time change, of your class mastery. If you can’t make it as a Runemaster, you should be able to, at least once, change your mastery to become a Sorceror or whatever else. Why should you be punished with wasting your time…just because you couldn’t have possibly known in advance?
That’s why its just three builds. People hear what is most powerful, gravitate and copy, and then never branch out.
It happens every time games do some arbitrary limitations on your talents or masteries or whatever that game calls it. Freedom and flexibility has never been a bad thing.
IT has only ever proven to be a boon for the communities.
It allows people to have more chances to create a more diverse build after learning.
You shouldn’t have to waste several hours, or for some people days, leveling up a new character just because you made one miscalculation. It is ignorant and takes away from the experience.
I mean crissakes, even Path of Exile, THE MOST EXTREME ARPG ON THE MARKET, even they have a way to redo some of your skills or talents. ITs work, but you can do it.
Diablo 2 had a reset.
D3’s only good feature was the fact that you could change freely depending on your gear, though I am not sure I would replicate that too much.
Torchlight had redos.
And guess what? All of them are remembered fondly as not being busted broken pieces of crap. Except d3 lol. AGain, only one good feature really.
NEver once has a game been broken or ruined or had the community fall apart…over having more freedom of choice and build diversity.
A small handful of hardcore arpg fans like the locked in mastery. Why cater to just a few people?
You could:
- make the locked mastery be a hardcore feature.
- have another game mode where you can reset.
- have it be a toggle just like solo self-found.
- a button in your mastery that lets you change it. If you don’t like the button, don’t push it. easy right?
*Put in some “Tome of I Suck At This Mastery, Please Help Me Not Spend Yet Another Seven Hours Leveling Up!”
*Let the lady who can redo our talents, also redo our mastery. I mean, she already does it halfway. Let her do the other half. You could even throw in a little questline to help her get the ability to do that for you. Lore baby, and role playing and in-game activities…
*THERE ARE DOZENS OF OPTIONS THAT WON’T BREAK THE UNIVERSE, I PROMISE…
Just give it a serious thought. Judging by previous responses, im likely to just get a bunch of ignorant responses like “if you don’t like it, dont play”…as if you can’t enjoy 99% of a game and then advocate for a positive change you want.
That’s literally how change happens. You do something or say something to the people who DO stuff.
Also, before you go saying its me, or im crazy…look across the internet, not just here. and even here, there are already dozens of people begging for a reset or just freedom of mastery.
Even pro ARPG players like Kripparian. Dudes a legend in the community, and even he says its kind of a dumb and dated idea…
People only care, because they are playing trade. Trade is fundamentally flawed in ARPG. Trade makes everything in Path of Exile so much worse - tell me about it, I have +10k hours in PoE. Go play Circle of Fortune and you will not care what other people are playing, stop following build guides, don’t compare yourself to others, make your own build, have fun.
I understand you feel that way, and I agree that the market is well-stocked with push-build-specific equipment. However, I am running an off-meta Beastmaster and I’ve purchased nearly every item I’m using from the Bazaar. Most of my items are or are nearly BiS. I also have a dozen or so pages of high-roll exalts currently listed, most of which are off-meta (because I am off-meta). I understand the concerns expressed here, but I also believe that many of those expressing them might not have given the Bazaar a fair chance.
Probably because he wants to actually get upgrades. Good luck getting them on COF despite all the drops. At least with MG there is always a path toward an upgrade… you just need to save enough.
I’m at 835 corruption CoF. Drops are not much better than before. Quant is higher but at some point it doesn’t matter anymore. its been a pain to play without finding any of the many upgrades I want for days. Please increase drop rates so I don’t have to play a whole season to find one single 4lp item for my build in CoF.
It’s not just adults who have a job, it’s also a bunch of teenagers who have a lot of time but no desire.
that said, it’s very interesting that “having a job” is now becoming a new excuse for changing video games. if i want to watch a movie that lasts two hours, but i only have an hour, i can’t complain that the movie was so long. i should complain that i didn’t take the appropriate amount of time.
consequences have the side effect that you don’t just do what you want, but think about your decision beforehand. if there are no consequences, then it doesn’t matter. then the system doesn’t matter.
people have the flexibility and freedom to decide what they want to play and use this freedom and flexibility to do everything like others. then they complain that they can’t decide flexibly and freely enough within their own limitations. that’s called consequences.
it’s wonderful what poe, D2, D3 and torchlight are doing, but i play Last Epoch here.
- So your only ideas to not limit is to limit on other ends.
i also don’t care what other people on the internet say. if this Kripparrian says that toilet paper is a bad idea, i shrug my shoulders too.
i’m not going to tell you to “play poe” or anything because i’m not a fan of phrases like that myself. i’m just saying that your reasons don’t make sense to me because it’s more about the mistakes of the people behind the screen than the game. and the game cant fix ppl.
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What i spoke about in my review, Last Epoch is Fun until its Not. I got crucified by white knights. Most of the people thou agreed with my comments on the state of build diversity.
Just unfortunate most people got no perspective on what a good game is as they just played diablo or PoE
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Fix your loot filter.
I have a loot filter that just recolors things GOLD and just put in like every chase idol affix and all of the useful exalted affixes.