Please, note that I don’t have access to any market data. I could be entirely wrong, and everyone from the outside arguing for this or that operates on pure assumptions. I am speaking from my experience of over 200h+ of playing, and observing the market.
Let’s take the Void Knight for example. It’s a B-tier Mastery. Not many people play it, but they want to. If we look at a list of its Uniques/Exalted (quantity and quality), it’s like day and night. Torment Warlocks have access to a bagilionzillions items, and they’re extremely expensive/lucrative. Not only that, but they are able to push extremely high corruption, meaning they get access to even more stuff. Given how smart loot works, and the current (perceived drop rates) I wish everyone that’s not S-tier the best of luck in getting anything even close to their BiS.
Conclusion, I propose, but I can’t stress enough that I don’t have data to back any of this up:
Properly increase drop chances as corruption goes up. Have a few strings attached to LP precisely.
I totally agree with the sentiment of not wanting people to lose their investments, and while we can debate this, there’s a fix that would take some work: bring up those other specs. Well, this would work, if it weren’t for the criminally OP, bug-abusing top-tier Masteries. In all seriousness, those people know what they’re doing, but alas - this is the only solution, provided your constraints.
All in all, I’ve been forced to play that broken spec myself, just so I can afford to buy stuff for my other characters that I actually wanna play.
This decision of yours has deep impact on the trade market.
Balance is just broken. I quit the game until some changes. I dont enjoy playing those 3 meta builds, among dozens of skill trees to explore that doesnt make any sense, because all other classes are in dumbster with dmg anyhow, unless I’d like to be stuck in casual mid-game experience, then any random build is viable. Its pure shit right now
thats bullshit. i am playing marksman right now, 0 legendaries (eventho i have multiple 2-3 LP uniques ready, i didnt have the need to bother with em) and I am at 300 corruption. When i put my Legendary on im easy on 1k. And im pretty sure this can be done to EVERY mastery.
Of course the balance that every high end build need ward is super stupid and should be changed next cycle…but for now you have to stick with what is possible
you rely on the marksman example build that was very strong since Beta, your argument is highly biased. Try playing other builds, like druid, void knight etc and see if you enjoy the game as much as right now at 300 corruption. You gonna fight bosses for 10mins while others just 2 shots them
The market will always trend with the meta. And there will always be a meta. Balance will never be perfect. It isn’t perfect here. It isn’t perfect in Path of Exile. It isn’t perfect in Diablo 4. Luckily MG is one of two options for how you might want to play the game. If interacting with an ever changing market that trends with a meta isn’t your style, play CoF and make your gear yourself, it’s far easier now than it was pre-1.0
you did, I quoted it. You compared your class to others that can 2 shot bosses and that was the basis for your complaint. I was just saying that maybe those other classes should not be able to 2 shot the bosses. So if you agree with this, you are basically saying those classes should be nerfed a bit, and I don’t disagree.
well ok, i played since release 3 builds (warlock, falconer and marksman) all were very strong which lead me to assumption there is always some build for any class available. I had 500 corruption prerelease with void knight, paladin and blade, so i guess it cant be that bad. Even thou i admit it is some time, things could have changed.
k, looks like you cant read. I said that there is no point playing other classes when there is a meta that 2 shots high corruption. Both sides are bad, low efficient builds and op builds. The balance should fix bugs and adjust strength for those skills. English is probably not even your 2nd language if you drew such conclusions. The imbalance between meta and the rest …is just too much
Yeah, unfortunatelly all leads to that many classes are not very sufficient right now. The classes you chose (warlock, falconer and marksman) are quite a bullseye, so definitelly that’s good for you. But seeing lots and lots of builds online that seem to be nice, are just nothing compared to the few. Beta and Release changed for sure.
exactly, majority is quite similar in strength on an average level and selected ones are far above them. It doesnt matter what i like or not. You better leave this topic because you probably got lost, read what the title says. We discuss the issue about 3-4 meta builds that break the game for other builds. Your casual tales bring no value here
How so? I fail to see how the big push builds affect any other builds, aside from obvious future balance passes. There is a slew of good exalted bases currently at the Bazaar that can be crafted to suit virtually any build. Nearly everyone was playing SSF before 1.0, and somehow having significant success with numerous off-meta builds. I feel like adaptation might serve a lot of folks better than condemnation, until said balance passes occur.
What you see at the bazaar would make sense.
The stores offer products that are largely tailored to the clientele in the area surrounding the store.
For example, if there are few families with babies in the area, you won’t find any or only a very small selection of diapers and baby food in the store. Frozen pizza, on the other hand, sells very well, and due to the high demand there is a large quantity of pizza.
It works the same way in games. The demand for items for the OP classes is high, and therefore the quantities and prices are higher. Items for the Void Knight, on the other hand, are almost neglected. After all, there is a risk that items for the Void Knight will take longer to sell and, above all, they will have to be offered at a lower price.
Why my next hero will be a void knight, buy low sell high. Void knight is also easy to gear as most of their uniques are common drops from bosses, and its from bosses that are easy to farm [black sun, fire spirts, husk of gaspard, emperor of corpses]
Unlike some classes like forgeuard, Druid, Spellblade, Lich, who have to farm dungeons like lightless arbor, soulfire, harot, all which are both more diffecult and time consuming by a factor of 10x. Not forgetting the fact you need keys to run them to begin with
That can work, yes. But you still need a buyer who is willing to pay the high price, otherwise it will be a shelf warmer.
Yes, thats true. The void knight is relatively easy to euqip, which probably has a big impact on the bazar. As far as that goes, it wasnt a good example. but it was also mainly about demand. if out of 1000 players only 150 play X and 400 play Y, you get the same result. the demand for the equipment for Y is higher and therefore sells better.
