I was so hyped for the changes this season but yikes, feeling pretty sad even this far in. It was my starter and I followed people who also used it. It seems pretty pidgeon holed to have to use forge guard for single target with ring of shields even though I’ve repeatedly seen that it’s bugged. I’ve tried VK, Pally and FG using really good T7 affixed gear, the new reflect idol etc and honestly compared to my Erasing Strike or my Phys Jav Pally it’s like playing an entirely different game. It’s “ok” to farm but boss killing is tediously slow.
I would love if you guys could bring it up a lot more on par with lets say;
VK - erasing strike, rive and warpath
Pally - judgement, Jav
FG - not sure, never played it other than feeling forced into it for ST.
The skill is amazing and fun and it’s my decade + fav in “the other arpg” and my strongest char. I and I’m sure 1000s of others would love to see more work put in, more option to play this across the classes, I mean theres an idol that turns all dmg into void that no one uses and tons of fire which is great for pally but again singlet target, nope!
I think it needs a lot more phys damage kinda like hammers but it needs higher scaling end game for the ability to actually kill bosses. One YT guy wouldnt even put his abberoth kill up as the video was too long/big to upload as it took -that long-
Please guys, begging you to bring it up some more, the changes to it this season are a great start feel free to DM me I have some good ideas haha and don’t worry it’s not adding a falcon as a minion, lmao 
Thank you, loving this season 
So what exactly pigeon-holes you into playing Forge Guard and using Ring of Shields?
Good thing there are others who are not afraid and it seems they can kill Abby in ~1:20 without capped crit chance and optimized gear, so all is well.
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Because Shield Throw’s single target has always been a bit lacking & one way to improve that is Ring of Shields.
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Haha as you can see in the video you posted (thanks heaps by the way) he’s FG/Ring of shields as the shields richochet off the ring making it a frog in the blender they refer to - which means if you dont use this you’ll get guys like the one I found who say the videos too long to upload haha!
I’m doing normal abby on my Pally Jav in about 18-23 seconds without moving an inch using Volca’s guide - start fight, stand still he moves to mid and stays there while I tank his auras, stun etc
The play style of most classes I’ve played VS shield throw just feels 100 times different it’s just not as smooth and 1 min 30 is quick but it’s not 4 seconds of a storm totem shaman or a blink of the eye for a falconer doing uber abberoth or 40 seconds for Erasing Strike doing uber, I am merely asking them to bring it up a bit and make the OTHER classes playable for single target.
If you look in ST theres a bunch of fire related nodes which is why he’s using firestarter but you’ve got a paladin who specialises in fire related skills and if you build him you might end killing abby but it’ll be 5-10 times slower than ring of shields which sucks.
Bringing up ST and making it viable for other classes won’t affect anyone else what so ever with their sub 1 min uber kills or there 15 second normal Abbys so I really don’t think anyone should be upset with me asking since thats what EHG is all about - bringing classes up to match
PS - thank you for that link again, I watched the original where he got the idea from and loaf mentioned bugs and issues and never finished it xo
