Shaman rework never?

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The shaman has been ignored since 0.9. In fact it hasn’t gotten a new unique for any of its skills since 0.8. I brought this up on stream with more than 2 months prior to season3 launch, and Judd responded directly to it, on stream, saying that would be looked into.

Rogue is getting an update? It got falconer just a couple patches ago. The spellblade getting a refresh makes some sense, it hasn’t been touched in a long time. The new skills for rogue and paladin in S5 (both classes who have seen massive updates post 1.0) makes no sense. Does anyone at EHG play the shaman? Do you need a dev for that class?

Shaman isnt on the roadmap at all. Not S4, not S5, and not even in the expansion. and you want people to pay for a new class?. What about existing classes.

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I’m pretty sure it’s getting one just because it’s one of the masteries still missing skills. Much like Pally will also get a new one even though they did Pally 2 seasons ago.
They likely want to finish all missing skills before the expansion drops.

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Shaman is also missing its final skill.

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Yes, and I expect it will get it before the expansion drops as well. Either next season or the expansion will simply be delayed one more season (quite likely given what they said before and how EHG tends to have delays in development).

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*subject to change :joy:

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It would be hilarious if they have given us the most generic roadmap possible and even that wouldn’t be accurate. :laughing:

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The roadmap quite literally specifies the new skills and reworks/updates. Shaman isnt on there. It is not coming. There is nobody there that works on that class.

I post about lack of shaman updates every cycle, but this roadmap felt different. They had a lot of eyes on and wanted to put what they would deliver and no more.

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Shaman has been getting buffs since then tho?

Storm totem got reworked as did avalanche both shaman locked skills in 1.1, as well as incidental improvements here or there up to 1.3

just because shaman isnt meta or good still does not mean they have not tried.

They cant spend every patch reworking shaman. You simply dont agree with their design space for it. its a hybrid melee that procs spells dude with totems. it does that job, that archetype just sucks.

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Shaman totems did not get a rework. they added storm bolt into its tree, its been the same outside of that.

Avalanche got its talent tree slightly altered. More of its talents were just moved into different locations. the only new thing that was put into the avalanche tree was the ability to an earthquake from avalanche, which due to horrid mana problems (and the fact it requires avalanche to be channeled) is hilariously bad because they removed the channeling while moving talent and the mana consumption isn’t tenable.

Shaman is missing its final skill. of the skills it has, tornado has the worse scaling of any skill in the game, next to maelstrom, the second worst scaling in the game. They are both thematically cool, but they do horrid damage and function more like support skills. Earthquake, the only good shaman skill, is better used on a druid or beastmaster. It honestly should be moved in the general primalist skill section but whatever. its clunky as shaman.

this really just seems like a gaslighting response. Remember that the examples i am giving are the massive sentinel overhaul, the new class for rouge and large talent overhaul. They have not reworked shaman a single time.

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Pretty big rework of how storm totem works, again just because its not “omg crazy different” to you does not mean it didnt get reworked.

A base functionality change is not a “slight alteration” it became vastly different.

Bro a good chunk of the classes are missing final skills. Paladin was part of the sentinel rework, and still didnt get its final skill

Rogue didnt get a new class, it got its final class that had been planned since the start. Falconer was not some new class randomly added to give rogues more power, they just literally hadnt even started with all their classes in the game rofl.

Again, sounds like you are mad shaman is not meta, but that does not mean they have not reworked shaman.

Also in the same patch falconer came out, 1.0, shaman got its rework, tempest strike and gathering storm were reworked. The storm bolt stuff was the shaman rework, again, can be mad about it all you want, but you cant just hand wave away they literally talked about it as a shaman rework to better tie shaman together thematically.

Tornado and maelstrom both can proc gathering storm bolts, and thus are tied into the main theme of shaman, which is bolts.

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Wanting shaman to not be bad does not mean wanting it to be the meta. It has the lowest representation on Aberroth.

Linking me those articles of “reworks” does not inherently mean my statement was incorrect. maybe you should go back and read it. I said they added storm bolts into the storm totem tree. You would also need to know how the original storm totem tree worked before making the claim. The original thunder totem didnt consume totems, it gave a flat 100% increased damage duration, health, and crit chance… They turned the multiplier into a more, and removed the crit. The damage was almost the same. So yeah i would say thats hardly a change.

Secondly, avalanche, as i stated, mostly had everything moved around. It did not become very different. You literally don’t even know what the bas tree looked like before this change, because if you did you wouldn’t make that claim. i can go line by line in the talent tree for avalanche and show you how almost every functionality of avalanche is still present, just the order in which you access the ability is different, as an example, it used to start channeled, and now it starts not channeled. You used to be able to make it not channeled, now you have to talent in to make it channeled.

Storm bolt literally replaced an existing shaman talent tree placeholder. It used to be called lightning strikes. I made posts about those years ago. It wasnt some miracle rework or huge change.

Tempest strike is not a shaman skill. Its a primalist skill. Even storm bolt is a primalist skill. Just do the slightest amount of investigation before coming into the thread with your bad takes. you sound like someone whos been playing since 1.1., you have 0 knowledge of this game or at the very least shaman, prior to harbinger

oh, and If storm bolt was so good, or malestrom, or tornado, or avalanche, show me the shaman builds that killed uber abberoth with it.

Wanting something to be better doesnt mean wanting it to be meta. There is a large large contract between meta and not trash in LE. You can plenty of videos of Rax for example calling out the power different between the top builds and the rest, and you can watch it from season 1, 2, or 3.

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To be fair, most builds, Shaman or not don’t kill Uber because Uber is stupid.

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