I know, hence the comment. Theyve been doing it for a long time they just got caught doing it & the community did not like it!
How could anyone who loves ARPGs not like Last Epoch? 
I am serious here. This is easily the best ARPG you can play right now, and I say that with thousands of hours in all of the big ones under my belt (except D4 where I quit after a few hundred because it was garbage).
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You obviously know ZERO about Raxx if you think that of him.
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Only if there is no trading.
Warum nicht?
Thatâs a strange commentâŚ
A company that wants to keep on making money as a live service, by keeping their game online, cannot live with one player, thatâs true.
But if it is an honest developper (and I believe EHG is), they would allow people to download everything before shutting down the servers, and I would enjoy the game exactly as much as I do now. One player, twenty thousands players, it literally doesnât make the smallest difference to my enjoyment.
When Van Helsing shut down their servers last year, they gave time and tools for people to download everything. Never saw the difference.
Edit: obviously only talking about ARPGs here. There are other categories of games where being the only player would limit my enjoyment.
If they âfinishâ the game and the game is kept as a stand alone version everything is fine. If you have an always online title that is constantly evolving and has a lot of work ahead and not added content and noone is playing or buying it itâll most likely get shut down before the devs and/or publishers loose to much money.
If people selfpublish they can do what they want but take a guess what happens if letâs say Diablo 3 has only 3 players a month for 3 months.
Gaming is a money driven industry that only works when money is made.
Look at the âpay us what you want!â model a german dev team is working with making an mmo⌠well have fun if they do one missstep they are done for good. Itâs a nice idea and I hope it works out for them but as soon as a game isnât generating iinterest itâll be gone and that is a bad thing for a game that couldâve lasted years more if more players played it.
Putting games in solo only mode is a good thing but then again I donât touch H&S games without coop more then once.
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I assume they would do like Van Helsing last year, release an offline downloadable version then shut down their server? They kinda have to, because we bought the game in the first place, unlike PoE or most MMOs, which are free or based on a subscription instead of an actual sale.
Absolutely fine by me.
To come back to the subjects of streamers, I donât watch them, and certainly wouldnât base any decision about buying a game on what any of them say. I find much more interesting to read quick reviews by random, average people.
The fact that these guys play for thousands of hours actually makes them much less credible in my eyes, because they must have so much skill and experience by now that their way of playing must be very different from mine. I canât relate.
But it is a fact, a lot of people follow what they say (their official job description is âinfluencersâ for a reason), so this kind of video is very good news for EHG.
Iâm gonna kind of jump on this reply train. I was one of the ones also straddling the fence so to speak. I wasnât sure if the game was worth the investment as it looked deathly like a POE remake. After watching raxx and Wudijo and others play it I saw the time and effort placed into the content. So I decided to make the purchase myself and am currently enjoying it.
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Can you imagine Bobby signing off on the extra expense to develop a putative offline version of D3 to let people play it for free?
For free? Whatâs free, we bought the game in the first place!
Call me optimistic, but yes, I like to think he would make an offline version. Not out of the kindness of his heart, but because it would be easier (and probably cheaper) than finding himself in dodgy legal territory.
[I am sure they have clever end user agreements with smallprints stating we are buying an online service and not a game, but as it isnât made clear at all at the time of purchase, especially if buying from Amazon or such, it would be an interesting legal debate. Particularly hard to uphold in Europe, these crazy Europeans have a nasty habit of trying to protect customers more than corporations. I know, this is madness, good thing we left!]
It is also worth noting that the game is getting attention from another big RPG player - Asmongold:
Is This Game Better Than Diablo 4?
So I think that player numbers will continue rising from this point on and so far the feedback is mostly positive.
We just hope that the servers will be okay on launch and the game will get the attention and impression it deservers.
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It was done by GGG
No I know of quite a few who had NDA
I dont hold a grudge, you are just deflecting away from my factual correct statements to remove the weight from it, its like saying you hate paedolphiles and then saying I have anger issues, get a life seriously
Is a botter and used Turbohud to gain advantages pushing rifts, lost all respect from me about 3-4 years ago - proof https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUg3uQ0ekzY - remember its hard to ignore this when you are directly competing against cheaters
I probably played D3 as much as these clowns back in the day. I still am on the leaderboards from S1-4 and I was extremely vocal of how shit D3 Greater Rifts were to the point I just quietly quit and walked away never to return
They donât have to. Weâve no contract with them forcing them to make a different version of the game when they shut it down. They can if they want to but they are not forced to.
Not necessarily. There are shittons of MMOs that were bought, but the servers have since gone offline. I would be willing to be something about that is covered in the EULA.
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Well, MMOs are quite differentâŚ
Letâs try to âbuyâ, for lack of a better word, World of Warcraft:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/World-of-Warcraft-PC-Mac/dp/B00FRESQYG/ref=sr_1_8?crid=5W1ZRGLPNJ4V&keywords=world+of+warcraft&qid=1696622816&rnid=300703&s=videogames&sprefix=world+of+warcraft%2Caps%2C75&sr=1-8
It is abundantly clear, on the box and in the item description, that we will need an internet connection, a subscription, and a battle.net account. Clearly, we are suscribing to a live internet service.
Now, letâs buy Diablo 3:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Diablo-III-Eternal-Collection-Xbox/dp/B07DGBNNPY/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1U8QBPDFXSKJL&keywords=diablo%2B3&qid=1696623096&sprefix=diablo%2B3%2Caps%2C73&sr=8-1&th=1
Nothing on this page or on the box itself lets me know that I am only suscribing to an internet service. Not a word. It is presented as a straightforward, full sale of a full game.
Yes, I agree, I am sure it is covered in the EULA. But as it would be easy to argue that the sale itself was deliberately misleading, if I was in charge I would still choose to release an offline version, rather than enter lenghty and unclear arguments.
Free, like how the Necro wasnât.
It doesnât stop the likes of EA doing morally dubious things, so I very much doubt it would stop Bobby.
Indeed.
We have this thing called sarcasm over here, Iâm not sure youâve experienced it yet.
GGG did this!
Just In case youve somehow managed to miss a few comments muahaha
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I had indeed missed it! I wasnât aware that such a thing had happened in the slightest.
Do you even internet bro?!
Back on topicâŚ
Glad to see another person enjoying last epoch, hope he (rax) decides to keep it as a main
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