I was just pointing out that if competitive players picked up those masteries, they could most likely push it way higher than 400. Nowhere near 2000, of course, but definitely higher.
An urgent nerf is needed for the falconer and acolyte, but other classes look poor
Maybe yes, maybe not.
Top sentinel players has decent margin above the rest.
No one guarantees that they are not already exceeding class expectations.
people here who ask for falconer nerf
are uninformed bozos
the only thing that is enabling falconer doing high coruption/arena is interaction smoke bomb + dive bomb . other rogues dont have this interaction obviously
and ward gain on shades from such infinite smoke bombs
this will get fixed asap, cause it causes server problems
so no more falconer top leaderboards soon
why donât use ward and endurance together ?
im playing sorc and donât feel ward is that OP, its ok cause you need lot of investment in items and skill points to make it works
its SP game you feel class is OP take other if you need more challenge lol
donât forget warlockâs are not tanks nerf the ward and warlockâs get one shotted in the end game bosses.
Warlocks look quite tanky on paper, depending on the build. 40% DR while channeling chaosflame. Atop the 24% DR while channeling from the passive tree? Atop 2% less damage taken per curse on target? Atop less damage taken from withered enemies?
Ah, does it meet your rules of what size gap is acceptable? Iâm sure the devs will be delighted to hear that.
2 weeks soon and that 2 bugs still there, thats not acceptable, they have other problems⌠I know but its a problem coming from launch an unfinished game with million of bugs and terrible optimization.
Our old friend Chupi, spamming other threads? Hi, there!
People with large Ward pools benefit from endurance too.
Damage done to ward is not affected by Endurance.
So how is it that I can get a lot further than 400 with many of those classes?
So all those non-Warlocks and non-Falconers are slackers?
The leaderboards disagree with you. You canât just pretend that we canât look up the leaderboards when you say something like this. And we are talking solo leaderboards, not 4 player groups. ALL classes are viable in 4 player groups because you can play support. That way you can give a mage 60k bursts of ward using Sentinels and people can complain about mage ward.
In your mind there is only one possible explanation for Warlocks being higher on the board than you⌠class imbalance and thus Warlocks must be nerfed.
So the reason why the #50 warlock is higher than the #1 mage, #1 primalist and #1 sentinel is Skill Issue.
Thatâs just as toxic as wanting the eventual and justified nerf bat to make every warlock want to quit the game or reroll.
At the end of the day Mike said 300 Corrupiton is endgame not 2300 ^^.
Corruption 2300 is something happening from 4 players synergizing and stacking buffs to produce insane ward. This is not a single player or spec generating that kind of power. Although, mage and rogue and warlock damage potential kinda crazy in certain specific builds with specific pieces.
I study politics, psychology and philosophy.
Cringe AF.
âGood players play warlock and bad players donât play warlockâ
This is an opinion not a fact.
Actually, a lot of good players and some of the best players WILL DEFINITELY meta slave, thus play the class that is broken or busted or overperforming so they can optimize it. Just look at fighting games and mobas and tell me that people choose what they want to play based off nothing more than their preference.
You are both right and you are both wrong. On the other hand just keep going that âdialogâ is entertaining.
Please learn to read, I said â1800 Corruptionâ. You know, the thing people actually do far more of than Arena.
No shot youâre going to tell me a class soloâing 1800 Corruptions in Cycle 1 isnât S++ god tier. Itâs right next to Acolyte, Lich, and Falconer. Marksman and Paladin are not as good, but really up there too in corruptions.
Things like Forgeguard, Shaman, and Spellblade are absolute garbage in comparison.
Thatâs bad game design. Balance by recent release is stuff P2W games do.
Please learn to read
Please stop conflating 4 player support synergy with solo play. My sentinel has some really sick ward and ward healing mechanics that strictly work on other players. That guy you keep pointing to is using multiple Sentinels and virtually 100% of their content involves pushing corruption with that group and cheesing out one of them solo as a tech demo.
Trust me, if it were that powerful on its own, youâd see countless people doing it like you are seeing with Acolytes and Falconers. Youâd see it in the leaderboards, youâd see it on streams with solo play.
Stop being disingenuous to put other things into a basket when they clearly donât belong.
Please stop lying. This was a 1800 SOLO Clear.
RM is with Necro, Warlock, Falconer. All OP AF. Paladin and Marskman close by.
Stop calling for nerfs when all we need is bug fixes. Especially not nerfs based on something as niche as arena.
This carries over to Corruptions bro. The main endgameâŚ
What are you people arguing about? It seems everyone wants the bugged interaction fixed??
I almost think that D4âs fortify mechanic wouldnât be too bad for melee builds in LE.
Yeah, non-ward builds in general would benefit greatly from fortify. I shelved my falconer despite the mastery being really fun because trying to build defensively once I hit empowered was starting to feel like a real chore.
What are you people arguing about? It seems everyone wants the bugged interaction fixed??
shush! Stop it if they finaly realise they all want the same stuff they stop bitching about it like if they are unhappiely married.
I play forge guard. I guess my chances on this leaderboard are pretty slim. Still i enjoy playing it and warlock being strong doesnât change my playing experience. So why nerf it.
If you want competition check the leaderboard on your class. I donât see any problem as long as contend is playable for the weakest class.
If some players need an easy mode class, let them enjoy it. It doesnât spoil my fun.