The game is fun while you’re doing the campaign. as soon as it comes down to gear progression its painfully slow due to very limited trading. What the devs have said is coming in the future is terrible as well. I wish i could refund this game.
There is TONS of De-sync and bugs when you try to do any Multiplayer content aside from Echoes (POE Maps). I’ve lost count of the amount of dungeon keys i have lost due to multiplayer disconnecting or multiple instances of my character showing up and the camera locks to the one that cant move.
Random roll backs of progress, Loosing levels, high LP (legendary potential) items which are rare to find and more.
The Devs change their minds each and every sentence during Dev blogs. ill give you an example:
" ARPGs are games about progression that are inherently more about the journey than the destination, and a friend skipping that journey for you by giving you all the items you need often drastically shortcircuits the adventure of the game and makes it less enjoyable."
Then 2 lines later
“Nevertheless, our primary goal with multiplayer is facilitating a great co-op experience, and we felt that a big part of that is being able to share the items you find while playing together.”
Yet gear can only be traded if the friend you want to give it to is online and was in the same session as you when it dropped. aside from the any gear you find is USELESS unless you wanna spend another 20+ hours doing the campaign again
Really disappointed in this game to be honest. Has so much potential but its hamstrung by its own development team.
EDIT: Game started in beta in 2018/2019 OUTSIDE of Steam. 5 years later almost and we still have bugs that cause hours of lost progress.
The current Gifting System is not complete yet, there is another layer of this planned, that allows Gifting of items that dropped while your friend was not present.
Together with the bugs you mentioned above, this is why it is called Multiplayer Beta
Yes there are bugs, but they are hard at work fixing these.
Especially the rollback is very unfortunate but a potential solution is coming this week already.
I understand Betas will have bugs but when they effect the core of the game so much to the point where you can loose hours of progress. its clearly not in a state to be sold for £30 as a “Early Access”
Also didnt the Beta for this game start in like 2018 outside of Steam? Its taken the best part of 5 years to get to the point we are at now…and still we have these bugs that cause HOURS of lost progress
We still have bugs that cause hours of lost progress? I have never read about rollbacks all my years here up until the mp beta, which is like 2 weeks old at this point. This is an entirely new aspect of the game, give the devs a little credit here, its not like there hasnt already been multiple patches since mp launch. Unlike D4, this is a true beta. Expect shit to happen.
You are not getting it or are being obtuse on purpose. Rollback HAS NOT HAPPENED before mp was introduced. MP has been here for less than 3 weeks. Not since 2019. Not sure how much more clear cut it can be.
Also before you jump in replies that i will not care about, i play this for few weeks so no i am not a hard defender, also funny you mentioned poe, a game where a supporter pack is 400$ but still has terrible desync and lag 10 years later.
Those weren’t bugs. The vast majority of those, if not all of them, were due to local file issues. Corruption of files, moved files, modified files, etc.
Those were not rollbacks, data was saved locally and then synced to steam. people lost progress when they lost their local data or steam sync failed, nothing to do with EHG
Game progression not slow, you are slow may be? Arpg always solo-oriented first, dunno why u whine about trade. Rollbacks? Sure, mp beta one or two weeks, what do u expect? Desync in poe doesn’t exist few yeats already. Ashes of creations would be beta for 50+ years and what? Beta still beta, it means ‘test this for bugs please’.
I completely agree. I am 100% sure that if I quit this game and move to D4 or whatever, it will be because of the ludicrous trading system they are proposing. I just want to freely give shards and items to my friends (regardless of when I picked them up and who was playing with me), and I can’t? Ridiculous.
Ludicrous. If I drop an item on the ground, everyone with me should be able to pick it up. END OF STORY. This gifting is a farce and verging on a game-killer for my group.
Either you suggest free trading. If that’s the case there are about 48274650 threads out there discussing this already.
Or if the item dropped while you were in the group with your people, it is already freely gift able between you.
The whole system that I mentioned with the resonance simply didn’t make it and they wouldn’t postpone the patch because of that.
If you really want this, just step away from the game for now and wait until it’s implemented.
That’s why this is an MP Beta and people demanding things is ludicrous to ME. “END OF STORY” is ludicrious
This is never a “END OF STORY” one sided debate. There are so many discussions about it and it doesn’t matter if you disagree or agree with them.
You need to acknowledge that there are that many different view points and it’s never “END OF STORY”
I do think the biggest problem with the game are the network issues, but you should have a little lenience. This game sold really hard for the stage of development it’s in. If after launch there’s still lots of network bugs and issues with lag, I would agree with you. For what it’s worth, this game still runs better online than a large number of others I’ve played lately. And the number of encounters and bosses that require you to be totally caught up to avoid dying are few and far between. I agree it could be better. That really could be the issue that kills the game, if they don’t fix it. But from the tickets and updates we’ve seen recently, it looks like they’re taking those problems seriously and intend to get it working smoothly.
