As the title states, its about leveling alts faster.
I feel terrible investing so much time for my 10th character while i want to try so many different things with wonky builds.
I don’t understand why i have to repeat that boring process in the campaign instead of skipping through as much as possible. Now i often stop playing because of it.
Campaign skipping:
I love that this game has campaign skipping sort of trough dungeons.
This seems to be nerfed however since the level of the dungeons seem higher/harder than before. I might be wrong tough but i can’t handle it while having a lot of damage and good leveling uniques/gear.
Any tips?
And what are you guys thoughts? do you also tend to stop faster because you have to level again where you would still play if adding a new one faster would be more easy?
Btw iam talking about second and third and 10th characters. NOT the first playthroughs. Hence not even the first few. I def would try and play every class and every ascendancy if it wasnt for the much time to invest in leveling again. Just let me tinker around with wanky buids please EHG xD
I personally like the journey of leveling a new character. I dont do the dungeon skip because its a weird concept. And i enjoy to see how my char progresses through story/early monolith. The only thing that bothers me is once i hit empowered to farm the right blessing for the build again. Personally thats the worst aspect currently in the game for me.
Forcing us to play campaign (by passive points and idol slots) over and over again is a bad design in my opinion. No matter how wonderful the campaign, there is always a point where you’re fed up. Be it 2nd playthrough, 5th or 15th.
Other routes should be available to us to level up and unlock points and slots, 2 ideas:
on the arena
monoliths of fate
Maybe just unlock those points on new chars? It helps to level up, but doesn’t change anything for the endgame.
Sometimes i just go to monoliths just after specialization, as low as 15, and level up a bit to see if it’s possible for this build and sometimes it is. On my paladin i left monoliths around level 40 to finish unlocking points and slots.
I’ve never tried skipping through dungeons. Does it unlock points and slots for the skipped content? Otherwise i don’t see the point of it.
I have never used Dungeons to level faster. I like the idea but I think it needs to shift more points and idols slots to be able to be unlocked via completing the dungeons. There are already more opportunities to get points than you can get. I would add 1-3 points and an idol slot behind each t1 dungeon so that it DOES make leveling faster and a legit strat for leveling.
Also they need to tune down T1 Dungeons so that level appropriate characters can reasonably complete them.
Alternatively, if level requirements were removed from gear that would mean that items can be the limiting factor for speeding new characters.
Just a few idea how Dungeons could be improved for their campaign skip functionality.
It’s not for me, as I much prefer the journey rather than the destination, but if you want to go fast then I assume you’d want to learn from one of the best and that’s Terek. He has a bunch of videos on his YouTube account showcasing his various speedruns. I imagine there’s a lot of little things he does that can help improve your alt leveling speeds, or at least I hope there is.
I agree. Having to level characters through the story each time is a drudge and repetitive. Especially since the story line lacks coherence. Not being rude but
Ive played over 300 hours and have no idea what the heck the story is about - its so disjointed and progress feels so slow. Something about time travel and dinosaurs and purple things. And of course Lagon who one shots me. thats it.
Be great if we had an option to level alts up faster especially as we can reroll masteries. So we need 3 damn alts per character type in order to really explore the builds (and build diversity and exploration is why i play this game).
As an example, I had just levelled a new mage up to about 30 when the last patch came out. So either i had to start a new mage and do the exact same freaking things I had just done or simply not bother with the new runemaster build - so runemaster may as well not exists to me right now. Thats frustrating to me.
i agree a about the weird concept. it feels like we want you to skip but actually not really sort of haha. i wish i had the same positive feeling youve got with the campaign. I like it, just not 3/4/5/6/7/8/9 times.
Every attempt to incorporate dungeon skipping into runs up to empowered monoliths, t4 bosses etc… just time and again shows that you shouldnt use dungeon skips as a way to speed up your characters progression through the story. They’re implemented terribly for that
And like, not implemented badly for speeding up progression in the sense of they do something, but other things do more. In the sense that I don’t actually believe the devs intend them for that, no matter what they say, they’re not even remotely close to being worth considering. Campaign progression is about skill points and idol slots, dungeon skips are about waypoints, and +1 to all attributes. Neither of which matter.
Disagree with that, gear wasnt an issue when I was testing monos at lvl 30-32, even though most drops couldnt be equipped. And thats the level we’d generally be starting monos at if dungeon skips made sense (if we didnt skip before monos).
starting empowereds now is like, 6 hours (based on the t4 race), if lvl 30 start was viable, you’d knock off like, 20-30 minutes imo. (its hard to quantify cus you have some power loss)
As for level, we need more races. I’m a firm believer that we’ve all been overlevelling. We just need more competition to actually see what level empowered mono start is
If killing enemies becomes worthwhile it might change, atm the majority of normal monos its literally not worth it to stop and cast abilities 99% of the time. It’s not really fun lol. But when it comes down to skipping stuff, the focus will be on whats optimal, so to some degree LE shouldnt really focus on making skips super good, cus then people will start seeing just how terrible the game is for going fast. Zooming through D4 is really fun for me, and its probably why I like it so much more. LE on the otherhand is very very fun when you take your time.
You seem to be mixing things up, it’s not “normal” people doing that (empowered in 6 hours), it’s people who are really good at it, have practiced a lot and know exactly what they’re doing. It’s like comparing me going out for a jog once a week with a friend at work to Usain Bolt…
i agree with you. I could never do empowered in 6 hours since i never practiced and i dont care about it.
Just to be clear (i know you answered someone else) i dont want the monolith to be faster. Just getting there would be nice if it could be faster for my 3/4/5/6 etc character. I leveled offline 5/6 and online 5 now and i get that its beta so i dont mind redoing it online.
But even online iam so done with that campaign slug and basicly rush to the end to get to the in my opinion cool part. I do think the campaign is cool, just not this many times ;). Maybe you already whas getting my point so sorry for over explaining then.
I’ve leveled at least 100 character’s through PoE’s story, and have no clue what it’s about. I’ve leveled 40 characters through WoW’s story, and have no idea what it’s about. The same could be said about any game I’ve ever played, with the exception of Dragon Age, because of Claudia Black’s Morrigan character.
In LE, you don’t even have to level through the entire game to get your passives and idol slots unlocked. They keep making concessions for this kind of complaining, and it’s never enough to appease people.
I think they should go back to having to complete the entire fscking game, and full cost re-level on skills. This constant “never enough” gripe is getting old.
Lovely another person who doesnt get my point.
I explain it again for you. I HATE DOING THE CAMPAIGN 1000 times. Its BORING TO ME as a person. Maybe not to other people but to me it is.
IAM NOT ASKING FOR FREE STUFF EVERYWHERE.
What i ask is let me skip the majority of the campaign and grind those passives in a different way. Even grinding the monolith would be A OK with me.
So NO i dont want to freaking get everything for free. Not at all. I dont mind getting it in a different way. Just not the to me boring campaign for the 11th time.
Also in POE you have orb of regrets which makes it able to even REFUND your ascendancy so you have to level LESS characters.This is literally saving up 8/10 hours for the average player since you dont have to relevel just for a different mastery… nobody is mentioning that when bringing up POE.
It feels like an odd comparison with LE to me.
And so what, you have level 100 charcters in POE. Now all the standards of other type of players should be like that aswell. What the hell dude, get of your high horse pretending like everybody wants everything for free. You can disagree btw thats fine, just dont tell lies or things i didnt even said like asking shit for free.
