You talking like getting 200 hours of entertainment for only $35 is not enough just shows how little clue you have about money and how much things cost in the real world. You could double that cost and it’d still be an incredible return. You would absolutely shit yourself if you had any idea how much it costs to get 200 hours of entertainment from just about any other hobby.
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Actually, exactly the opposite.
To me, 200 hours played is 200 hours enjoyed. Because I value my time enough to NOT play something I don’t enjoy. For $35, that’s a great deal.
I have plenty of games in my Steam library I have played for 1 hour or less, because I wasn’t having fun. I regret buying them, but I won’t force myself to play something I don’t enjoy just because I have paid for it.
When I am not having fun anymore, and it always happens sooner or later, I stop and do something else. Nothing is forever. Without any “bad taste in my mouth”, nor any need to loudly announce my departure.
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Has nothing to do with money for me.
Unlike D2 & TQ?
And disagreeing with the OP, therefore worthy of an additional report.
That’s not really how that works. If you were to look at it like that then the more rapidly you realised you didn’t like the game the “better” it would be (because lower hours & fixed fee). If you can get 200 (or more or whatever) of enjoyment out of a $35 purchase, that’s a good thing. Don’t let Apple tell you otherwise.
And yet exit interviews do have value.
Then I’m confused as to why you made the statement.
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Press G for in game guide. Ask questions, learn more. This isn’t Diablo where you mash a skill to level up and then farm 1 boss to farm another boss to never get gear. The grind for loot is part of the game, and any proper arpg. People push past corruption 500-700 fairly easily, it’s just a learning process filled with trial and error sometimes.
I mean, even D3 was like this and it was the easiest ARPG ever. Even though D3’s RNG range was much smaller, everything there ran on RNG anyway. I don’t think you can have an ARPG without RNG.
Indeed. In fact, the correct formula would be either TotalHours/TotalPrice or the reverse, depending on if you’re trying to find the cost per hour or hours per dollar.
So 200/35 means you get 5.7h per 1$, and 35/200 means each hour cost 0.175$.
Because time is more valuable than money. And If I spend 200 hours in a game that feels like I have wasted said time at the 200th hour then that is 200 hours I will never get back, that I could have spent doing something I would have enjoyed (game, movie, shows, books, ect).
Is this like a bizarre concept or something? If you don’t value your time idk what to tell you.
I made exactly zero judgements to your situation/comments. I was just expanding on the comment @Llama8 made.
If you don’t start feeling that you wasted your time until hour 200, that just means you got 199 hours, 59 minutes, 59 seconds of entertainment.
Speculating on how much more fun you might have had playing some other game for that 200 hours and getting retroactively mad about how you voluntarily spent that 200 hours is not “valuing your time”, it’s being childish. People who “value their time” don’t spend 200 hours doing something they don’t enjoy that produces nothing for them, and don’t take 200 hours to figure out that they don’t like things.
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circular argument Im done explaining.
Translation: You can’t actually explain it, you know what I said is right, and you can’t admit it.
Cant explain something you dont inherently value.
Skill issue. please git gud.
I suppose “bizarre” means different things for everyone, but to me, yes, it is very bizarre.
If you were feeling like you were wasting your time, why on earth did you keep it on for 200 hours? It is incredibly long.
Again, why didn’t you?
How can you say you “value your time” then spend such a mind-blowing amount of time doing something you don’t enjoy?
I do value my time. Gaming is leisure. I wouldn’t spend even one hour on a game if I didn’t enjoy it.
I agree on that bit. And that’s why when I don’t enjoy a game, I just don’t play it, even if I paid for it.
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I guess I can only go with my experiences, I’ve never had to take 200 hours to figure out I don’t enjoy something. Presumably there must have been a time that you did enjoy it which then changed?
I would certainly spend less than 2 hours (Steam refund cut off) on a game I wasn’t sure about.
There are so many Player here that have spend thousands of hours in this game because they like it the way it is and was… so devs must have made something right… if that isnt yours its ok… just leave and play something else. btw. can i have your stuff ?
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I would certainly spend less than 2 hours (Steam refund cut off) on a game I wasn’t sure about.
In most cases yes, but in LE the story itself takes longer than 2hrs for a new player that has never completed it before and you have to finish that before you can start playing the endgame.
Then you get to endgame and discover it’s a bit grindy and you’re not certain it’s worth the time investment.
At this point the sunk cost fallacy kicks in.
Do you say that a sour taste at the 200h mark invalidates the good time you had at this point?
If so, I would say you aren’t valuing your time because you devalue your good memories retroactively.
If people kept their “I leave bye!” to “I leave because of the reasons I state!” and then simply make a short list of stuff that makes them leave this might contain valuable feedback.
There is only one thing more useless then “Bye I’m leaving!” posts. Posts of people, like me, who answer to them and keep them up ^^.
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That’s not the “sunk cost fallacy”; that’s just inertia.
Anyway, these things are sort of, kind of, mostly certain (possible!):
- LE’s player base will shrink by a lot as soon as PoE’s new league releases.
- LE’s player base will grow again when, along with the next cycle of LE, new endgame content is added to LE.
- LE’s player base will shrink again with the release of the PoE2 beta.
- Things get fuzzy after that.
No fallacies were harmed in the creation of these predictions.
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