Very bad patch.
I haven’t read all replies, but i will voice my disappointment anyway:
arena keys’ price get nerfed into ground
double XP tomes disappears for CoF and get nothing in return, so nerf
some abused skills get nerfed, but some don’t
and then in the same patch notes devs claim they don’t want to nerf mid-cycle, yet they did (1,2,3). were arena keys crashing servers too?
healing hands still don’t get fire tag with searing light
healing hands still don’t get DPS meter
Quick comment for those defending warlock’s profane veil:
i’ve seen it often repeated that it’s their fun, like it shouldn’t bother others; leaderboards can be seperated by class, etc.
but such OP builds do bother others now. thanks to MG and trading guild. now such OP builds can be used to farm rare stuff easier and that disrupts and later destroys economy.
and no, it’s not all reset with end of cycle, because cycle builds and items get transfered to legacy and continue to ruin economy for eternity.
so OP builds are the end of trading. i’m not trading, i’m CoF even though it’s nerfed “mid-cycle”
Great, so CoF = no gold for tabs / shatter. CoM = 0 gold because people are selling shit for 0 gold + price checking is so time consuming you’d be better off farming the 20g’s that drops on runs. Good Job, back to PoE.
Hi EHG-Team, thanks for the patch and the info Somewhere (I believe it was on the discord) someone of your team, said something about changes for the mage, because of the rune master it is not performing as intented… Can you say already what this changes are and when they are planned be released?
and im guessing bots use this build too… cause that lets them survive cause bots have no skill… so the usually would die but with this the bot runs a super strict filter and farms items for the market to sell to farm gold to sell real money xD cause no normal player would sell 1m gold for under 2$
I don’t care about leaderboards and I don’t look up meta cookie-cutter builds, and I would bet good money that the vast majority of players don’t either. That said, bugs should be fixed, full stop. I’m 100% in favor of OP builds being available, but that should come from skill synergy and great gear, not bugs.
I understand about not wanting to dish out nerfs mid cycle…but i’d probably suggest ironing out bugs straight away. If it was just a miscalculation with numbers then yeah, leave it until the next instalment but if its an actual bug, then i wouldn’t wait on those.
Basically what happened to a lot of COF players (Me Included) which had Key prophecies active to farm today after work. I had a mix of Prophecies including uniques, keys, Exalteds so not just Keys.
My time spent farming XP and Favor in order to reroll the prophecies into Keys (13 Prophecies active now) to get gold for Stash tabs (+350k gold each now) is basically worth nothing. Time and favor wasted and now About to reach Rank 9 (I’ve been playing non stop after work since release…) without an efficient way to get to Rank 10 and without enough gold to buy Shattering runes and stash tabss
All COF players have been nerfed but they’re afraid to berf the Bug abusers who chose that build well knowing what they were getting into.
I Logged in only to see the price change and logged off immediately. I lost the interest to play today. Such a disappointment.
it’s functionally irrelevant whether it’s a bug or a balance issue. The outcome is what matters. If said outcome is so ridiculously overtuned, it needs to be cut. Massively overpowered builds for no investment are bad for the game, really bad. Doesn’t matter the cause.
i dont like this change at all BUT , going back to PoE where there is no gold for currency and stash is not infinite? but with microstansaction?!
its make no sense at all.
Please just do the nerfs mid-cycle, i’ve been playing Falconer and even without the smoke abuse it is way overtuned, same for warlock. Never seen anything this broken during EA. Rerolled to Herald of Scurry and it feels bad compared to those builds which is insane since Scurry was considered OP and has barely been hit by the nerfs.
This is a big win for the bots, and a big L for the rest of CoF, why is it a win? Because you just gave them a bigger reason to farm gold. CoF just got the middle finger, and I’m not sure what I would say to those that play CoF offline…
Imo keys and xp tomes could’ve been stuff left for next patch, especially as they don’t appear to have been thought about, if anything I want to go MG for gold because I want more stash tabs and could sell a few items for millions of gold.
but yeah bugs giving like 100-200k ward making a build effectively immortal should be checked.
I think bug fixes that are balance nerfs should be made sparingly, and maybe with a warning (so people are prepared to reroll) though a warning could also be detrimental to people who don’t see it.
I completely agree with nerfing builds that lead to stability issues.
I do think builds that are clearly broken should be up for the chopping board (like 10k ward is fine, 100k isn’t.) so maybe nerf them by like half of what you think is needed (communicating clearly that this is an emergency fix and will be more thoroughly balanced next season), and see how it goes.
Such patches should also be clearly shown on login, or maybe a clever way only on characters that may be affected (so like only show the warning that x skill has been changed after you login on a character with that class/mastery/item)
Though I also think you can’t win with mid patch changes, because people will complain that things aren’t nerfed, or they will complain that they are.
I think you might want to add some canaries to avoid completely overpowered builds staying hidden, like if someone obtains more than 65k ward, kills a boss in less than a second (scaling with corruption) etc… put the build in a naughty list and see if it warrants a nerf. (That would allow to quickly find the common points too if multiple people are using that)
Instead of nerfing keys why not put more ways to sink gold, I feel like this nerf was unjustified as farming for arena keys was just another way to get gold, I don’t think I’ve seen a single person claiming that the arena key sell price was breaking the games economy… Also why nerf double reward on XP tomes? That just makes no sense.
All this is going to do is lead to a huge amount of bots in chat, we are already seeing the damage being done I’m getting gold bots appearing in chat every 2-5 minutes I’ve had to turn off global for that very reason.
Please fix the Profane Veil Vampiric Blood node. The ward it provides is beyond broken. Either that or give all the other classes a broken node that is on par with that. Your stance on this is pretty bad.
Somewhere (I believe it was on the discord) someone of your team, said something about changes for the mage, because of the rune master it is not performing as intented… Can you say already what this changes are and when they are planned be released?