Help me understand frostbite scaling please

Other then the obvious ones like elemental damage over time and such, as far as I understand, frostbite scales from the multipliers of the skills that apply it that are generic and not mention “on hit” or something like that… does that include the increased damage multipliers from the stat scaling the skill has?

What happens if multiple different skills apply their own frostbite with their own multipliers on a target, do they all do their individual damage in different buckets added to each other or is the baseline set for every other one by the highest damaging one?

What items that you know of are best for scaling frostbite or interact with it?

Anything else you deem important, please let me know, thank you <3

Yes.

It’s all treated separately based on the skill that applied the stack.

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Cold Penetration with Frostbite affix limited to Mage helmets and body armors.
Cold Penetration with Frostbite affix on 1x3 Mage idols.
Frostbite Shackles +% Frostbite Duration and high +% Chance to Apply Frostbite
Snowdrift 1% Cold Penetration per 10% Freeze Rate Multiplier

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Awesome, thanks guys! Got another question if you guys happen to know!

Are there any skills or mechanics that could take advantage of the number of stacks of frostbite rather then the damage you do with them? Mostly looking at mage but I’m interested to hear of other classes too.

For example there’s a node in Enchant weapon on spellblade called conflagrate that consumes all stacks of ignite to deal instant damage; Perhaps there is something similar for frostbite… or perhaps a way to convert them to another element and then consume them with something else? Or maybe just a skill that gets more multipliers based on the stacks of frostbite on an enemy?

Not sure about that, but one of the interesting things about frostbite is that it also applies freeze. It’s the only DOT that also does crowd-control, that I’m aware of.

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I don’t think there’s any interaction like the stack removal from enchant weapon, but check here to see all the items/skills that create or interact with Frostbite.

I have checked it, and maybe Shattered Immunity from the Serpent Strike tree fits your bill? int increases the damage the serpent strike “venom” does according to the poison and frostbite stacks.

Another thing inherent about frostbite is that it increases the chance to freeze enemies (up to 15 stacks, which is basically instantly capped) so other skills that can freeze enemies then freeze them easier. Technically based on stacks but again, getting 15 stacks is piss easy.

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That’s exactly along the lines of what I was thinking, I have no experience with primalist however… I do wonder how many stacks he could get reliably and how fast; That being said, in party play that would become really busted/good regardless, if you play with someone that does a lot of frostbite stacks for you.

well, you can get a quite a lot of stacks going swarmblade, avalanche procs to get storm stacks going so your locusts generate the rest, do frostbite with the locusts, with your hits, with the storm procs… you should pretty reliably sustain 100+ stacks. Going human fixes you into spears, which are not that fast, so you will need to combine proc hits to generate more stacks, like from thorn totem procs from the idol which again give you storm stacks from the ally node, and and those then spawn more thorn totems You would go wolves I guess for the free frenzy and melee attack speed.

Frostbite doesn’t apply freeze, it reduces the target’s chance to not be frozen.

Dang Llama why you gotta burst my bubble :frowning:

Because you were wrong.

:smiling_face_with_tear: will you forgive me?

First you need to forgive yourself.

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No.
10 chars or however much it is

In the quiet of the moon’s soft glow,
Forgive me, dear Llama, for my folly’s flow.
In words unspoken, in actions untold,
I see now the rift that my choices have sowed.

Your friendship, a treasure, like stars in the night,
Yet my heedless ways dimmed that guiding light.
With each step astray, I wounded your trust,
In the dust of regret, my heart is thus thrust.

Forgive this errant soul, O steadfast friend,
Whose path faltered, but seeks to amend.
Let not my pride stand 'twixt us two,
For your friendship, dear Llama, is pure and true.

In the garden of memories, let us replant,
The seeds of laughter, with a gentle hand.
For apologies whispered in the wind’s soft caress,
May they heal and restore, bring peace, and bless.

So here, in sincerity, I lay bare my plea,
Let forgiveness bloom between you and me.
For a friend like you, a rare gem so bright,
I cherish our bond with all my might.

Llama, forgive me, let our friendship mend,
For in your grace, I find solace, my dear friend.

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This deserves a lot more than a simple like :laughing:
:heart:

Yeah, it’s still a no though. I’ve painted myself into a corner on this one.

Though if you can convince my almost-ex-wife to sign the motherloving financial agreement that we agreed upon a month ago (so we can then get the divorce finished off) then maybe I’d consider a modicum of forgiveness.

I’m not the one asking for your forgiveness, though. I don’t care if you forgive me or not. Though I’d like to know what you think I did that requires your forgiveness :stuck_out_tongue:

I know, I meant him.

Yeah, but you replied to me. I don’t know if I can forgive you for that.