Glyph of Envy PSA

This is mostly for alt chars since if I recall well glyphs of envy cannot drop from normal monoliths just empowered ones so I do not think you will have said glyphs on your first char to speed up your normal monos. Sorry.

I have seen some posts here and there talking about how tedious gaining stability can be and I just want to remind or let people who do not know about using Glyphs of Envy if you have them of course. Those give you stability in the timeline you are in whenever you use them!

If it does not allow you to use them do not forget you need forging potential on the item or maybe it is because you need to join an echo in that timeline before you can use it.

Also in case you are playing with a friend and you both want to rush for timeline blessings or just for the boss fight both of you will need to start an echo from the same timeline one at a time. Example you do an echo from your web then your friend has to do one as well otherwise he will not be allowed to use glyphs of envy for said timeline if he was in a different one or such thing.

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Not many people are aware of this feature. Thanks for bringing it to everyone’s attention.

Me and my husband have used the glyph, and at one point I used it on the wrong timeline (I didnt go into the time line we where actually on) … This is our alt char and now I cannot do empowered monos, he can… :woman_shrugging: This has happened more than once. The glyph is nice, but it be nice if id didnt bug out on my end.

I also used it on the wrong timelines at times when I was rushing myself but what is the bug that you encounter on your end exactly? Because using it by mistake on a different timeline I dont think that is a bug ;p

the issue is for people playing in a party that aren’t the party’s host. lets say two in a party move from lagon to dragon timeline and complete the first echo there. if both use GOE the host’s stabilty goes into dragons timeline, the other one’s stability goes to lagon.
only the party host gets credit for ‘last completed echo in a timeline’, the other party members don’t, so clearly a bug since another outcome is expected.

That is why I mentioned for the other player in the party to do an echo in the next timeline as well! That way when he uses GOE he will also gain stability in the timeline the host is. So if you go to reign of dragons and do an echo then have your friend do an echo in it as well and you can both use GOE and will both get stability for that timeline. I dont think it is a bug maybe it is just that the game reads only the last echo you personally activated as the timeline you will gain stability towards.

yes, you mentioned it in the OP, i didn’t read that part and jumped to explaining why its a bug.
all good :slight_smile:

as a better and faster workaround the non-host of the party can just open an echo from their web, portal in and can instantly use the glyph there and portal out again.

The issue is, when we use it on an alt character it doenst let me get to empowered on that character. It only lets my husband who started the echo. We’ve been playing these characters the whole game together… same with our first builds but we had no issues with me getting to empowered on that 1st character. We’ve completed all the things we need to complete… also i dont think the person whos not the host should have to open their own echo to use the gyph correctly. Thats just what we think. Because i was already there. :woman_shrugging::blush:

This is the 3rd time we’ve had this issue. 1.1 and then the rest and now… this time. Its just frustrating… and yes i know we dont have to use it, , but running it over and over with different characters in monos is ugh. Lol

Have you tried doing the quests from one of the Spirits of Fire, The Last Ruin or The Age of Winter timelines? That is how I unlock my empowered monoliths on my alts. I just get stability on one of those until I can do its quest then do all the 3 quests for the timeline and they are unlocked.

Also yeah about the glyphs it is weird but I assume it works like that because the game remembers your character still being in the last timeline you opened your personal echo even though you already went through many others that your husband opened.

Yea we finnshed the last ruin… but we id it on his…

Yes, you only need to do the 1. However, this is a new system and is likely to still have some bugs.

If you go to your monoliths on your alt, do you still see all monos unlocked?
It’s possible that you need to also do the boss on your level 90 monolith to unlock it for your alt.
Group play is quirky sometimes.

We havent done it under me no. Just on his.

Maybe give a try, then. At least that way you’ll be able to report what is happening exactly so it can be fixed.

Yeah you need to do one where you pick the route on the echo web. Or at least you initiate the quests of the timeline.

Thats where the problem is. We both used GoE she also went into her own echo. Then used it.

The issue is we both for all timeline even the last ruin tumeline we both had the required stability. When doing this ever since alts can do one lvl 90 timeline to unlock empowered in 1.1 mid season rest and now. Its always thw first alt we both do where she cant unlock empowered.

I have more hrs than she does due to the fact i played since day one of EA. Almost 1k hra for me a majority of that is wife and i playing together practically daily since 0.9 dropped. Never had issues with the first alt till 1.1

In party play something is bugged when using GoE. Especially when ur not the echo host

Wife and i plan to try this out as well as go back to the timeline we started using the GoE. Where she messed up and used GoE a few times in different timelines before going into an echo on her own.

We think theres an issue woth GoE bugging out if the non host doesnt enter an echo. First. Before using it.

Once we have tried these things i will make a post detailing what we did and if it fixed it or not.

Dont need to if ur not the host. Every first character of a reset shes never been the host and unlocks empowered just fine.

Alts should also work the same way. As long as both of us make sure we have the required stability its all fine on first chars of a season/reset

Something isnt working properly with at least the first alt we do in any reset since 1.1. Ibuave a suspicion its the GoE bugging out. As i explain to DJ

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Well I am sorry to hear that. I really have no clue what could fix the issue in your situation especially since it is going on for a while. For me and my friend that is what fixed it. He started the echo missions in one of the timelines mentioned above and he unlocked his empowered mono after I did. Talking about alt chars of course.
Whatever the issue is for you I hope you find it and manage to fix it somehow. I noticed quite a few things can get messed up while playing in a party unfortunately. At least for me and my buddy.

Also maybe another PSA, if you get a strong champion affix on a bad item base, you can use glyph of envy to reroll the base keeping the champion affix as it cannot change sealed mods.

However, this will always result in a rare since Envy cannot make exalted items.

We haven’t tried what u mention yet both of us just got off work. We plan to as soon as we get home. Hopefully this helps her out.

If not we will go back to the timeline we started using the GoE and have her be the host to test out if theres a bug or issue with accidentally using a GoE before she entered the timeline with her starting.

I will for sure post here what worked or didnt.

Thanks for the help

Does this fix your issues?