it’s a very different thing. Food is a finished product, you get it, you eat it, that’s it. You are getting a finished product if you play offline right now. If you want persistence, community, market, that is a continuous action and as such, needs continuous fixing
What the fuck. This is just insane to think that it is normal that a launch goes bad and that’s ok because there is offline mode.
The game is advertised as online, thusly it must work online.
The game is declared launched, thus it must be launched.
This industry is just so bad that people find acceptable the fact that games come not working or half baked.
As a dev myself, i can however understand the problems they have and (not like poe dev) they are actually communicating about it so it make it less worst i guess?
But it is still not acceptable for this game or PoE or D3 or D4 or any other game to not work as advertised on launch day. Those insane reaction of ppl stating to not be upset just show how low have gaming expectancy fall
I bought the game 3 tears ago, played 75 hours and was happy with the value I got at that point. I stopped playing because I disliked having to make a new character when they would release a new update. I knew that the first day would be a shit show, and I don’t care for you call the game a service. It is not a service, it is a product. When you walk into whatever store you go to buy pants, wear them for 200 hours and then wash them and it takes a little bit for them to fit right again do you bitch also? You can still play the PRODUCT you paid for offline. You are bitching because the PRODUCT you paid for has a new feature and you can not use it as soon as you like tough shit, grow up, lean back and wait.
I played POE since 2013 this isnt anything new so chill out and go Play POE while you wait. Its ok they dont have 200 ppl to fix the problem.
Thanks to players like you, we get unfinished and rushed-up coded games at launch. They said this is an API issue? Do you even know what API means? Let me make it easy for you: bad coding.
NO. He did paid for a beta (unfinished bugged , unbalanced) version in order to help creators get some money. Are u alien?
You pay with the understanding that eventually the game will ship. It ain’t like I bought in thinking the game would never become a finished product.
The point is that he was aware of the state the game was in when he paid for it, yet complains when the (free to him) upgrade isn’t to his liking.
If you look at my banners, you know I spent far more on the beta, for the exact reason you mention, I thought the game worth supporting its development.
If the devs don’t meet my expectations, they won’t get any anger from me, only dissappointment.
To reiterate; none of the money I ever gave to EHG (be it game, supporter packs, Twitch or to various streamers who are its PR) gives me a reason to expect more of the game than I got when I paid said money. The game was worth it at that state, so I paid for it, that’s it.
Ah, a mind reader, I see!
Seen this coming, its Wolcen all over again…
Who cooked ur brain?
Ah, a simp, I see.
You is not the customer base. Most of people want to by a game at launch, expecting it to be ready to play.
People who waited expect being able to play with friends or having an online experience because the game is advertised to do so. This is not surprising to see annoyed customers calling it a scam because, in their eyes of new customer, of new player base, IT IS a scam.
When I have to deliver on deadline, if i broke production with my merge, it is expected to be shit on by customer and you know what? It also is normal.
Don’t go putting words in my mouth. I said he paid for a lesser version of the game and that then complaining the free upgrade of his product is not worth its money is dishonest.
North Korea is declared as Democratic, thus it must be democratic.
Did I do it right?
The game is advertised as “Online Co-Op” on Steam, which only says that to play co-op, you must be online.
The game did launch btw, and for the first 30min, it was amazing … then the severs got swamped and crashed.
As a dev, what was the biggest launch user-base you ever had and how many people did you have in beta before it? Because for that argument to work, you need to have had similar experiences in the past to elevate your argument above others.
This isn’t a meal dude, its an online live service video game. If you have ever played a hyped-up online ARPG on launch day you should have known to expect this. Go outside and look at the sky
If I’m not allowed to speak for other players, then neither are you.
Also, “You are”
People who waited expect being able to play with friends or having an online experience because the game is advertised to do so. This is not surprising to see annoyed customers calling it a scam because, in their eyes of new customer, of new player base, IT IS a scam.
When I have to deliver on deadline, if i broke production with my merge, it is expected to be shit on by customer and you know what? It also is normal.
Except they never broke production, production never went live before.
Yeah, the initial go-live of the production server showed issues which caused a lot of incoming transaction to not be handled, they are open about that. That’s not a scam. A scam would be saying that the servers are fine and all the reports are “isolated incidents”.
In your case, if the customer blames you for breaking prod on purpose or never having touched a keyboard before in your life, would that be reasonable?
As a dev, what was the biggest launch user-base you ever had and how many people did you have in beta before it? Because for that argument to work, you need to have had similar experiences in the past to elevate your argument above others.
I litterally have hundreds of thousand people impacted if i make a booboo cause i work for a vital operation for my state. But yeah, i must not know what i am talking about.
Them breaking API just show that they did not even crash tested properly before launch. It is not server issue, it is litteral code that went bad so i suspect that they did not stress test enough.
If I’m not allowed to speak for other players, then neither are you.
Also, “You are”
You are not a customer base and I am trying to explain that to you. They have already lost probably a heavy number of customer in Europe due to the late hour and i am not english native.
Except they never broke production, production never went live before.
You do know they had an anticipated access right? You do know that it is production?
Cooked brain make sense now.
a lot of incoming transaction to not be handled, they are open about that. That’s not a scam. A scam would be saying that the servers are fine and all the reports are “isolated incidents”.
I do agree it is not a scam but new players and customers don’t care because they don’t know. If you deliver something not working as intended don’t act surprised when you get accused of being deliberately malicius. Moreover regarding all of the scandals video game has today.
For a lot of people, first contact is decisive, and this is a very bad one.
if the customer blames you for breaking prod on purpose or never having touched a keyboard before in your life, would that be reasonable?
Actually, if i broke production at the point it is not working “at all”, yeah it would be reasonnable. And you can be sure that my boss will have an interview with me the next day. Now this is a video game so this is not that bad, but stop acting and defending not working game at launch day.
This has became a standard when it should have been the exception, and that is not okay.
The fact that people are telling others that they cannot be dissatisfied with a purchase is beyond me. You pay for a service. You should be allowed to expect that service as advertised.
The point is that he was aware of the state the game was in when he paid for it, yet complains when the (free to him) upgrade isn’t to his liking.
I bought the game with the expectation it would go live and have functioning multiplayer. You regularly just give money to companies knowing their products will never be finished?