Yes, and I would have agreed in the first place, if you had not pulled PoE’s endgame into the discussion and made it seem that you compared it to your lvl 60 experience.
But one important point of my experiment is: I did not waste my time - I made progress as usual, with only mildly reduced efficiency. It’s not like I had to run extra laps as a punishment after class. I got gold, character levels, shards, pushed the timeline, found an idol I’ll need soon.
I had fun.
Honestly, I don’t think both sides will ever agree, so this discussion is pointless (even more pointless because there are already multiple threads about this with these exact same arguments. One thread with lots of votes is more likely to cause an impact that dozens with half a dozen votes, but there you go).
Ultimately, this is the system EHG wants for LE. It’s a system that many players like. If you don’t like it, you should either accept it and move on or just leave and find a game more to your liking. Rehashing the same old arguments over and over again isn’t really productive.
But it’s not everyone, maybe not even the majority. 
It feels like a common outcry among the community, will see in a few days.
To be fair, you misread the intent of that. I only commented on the endgame because the point about respeccing to fight bosses was brought up (see previous paragraph). That would only happen (and only happens) at endgame/max level. Later posts went into the general point about Regret Orbs being relatively easy to accrue all through leveling.
Your point about the releveling process not being wasted because you gained in other ways - sure, but that would happen anyway. You’ve just been forced to do it with less power than you had initially. XP (i.e. time) has still been taken from you and nothing given back in return. And you’ve been forced to wait for whatever change you wanted to put into effect. It’s just unnecessary friction, that we both know will be much worse the bigger the change/respec.
If there are already multiple threads about this (and I posted to this one which was already created), doesn’t that say something? It’s an issue for many, whether anyone agrees with it or not.
No one ever said it’s not an issue for many. But it’s also a non-issue for many. Ultimately, like I said, LE wants their game to feel like this. A little of the old school feeling of ARPGs but a little less punishing. You either like it and play it, you don’t like it but can live with it and play it, or you don’t and don’t play it and play something else.
It’s not likely to change anytime soon. And if it does change in the future, then the people that like the way it is now will have the same choice: accept it and move on, or don’t accept it and play something else.
Basically LE is aiming for the type of player where this is a non-issue. And there are many like that. They don’t have to please all types of players because that’s impossible as D4 tried to do and clearly (and obviously) failed.
Could be better imo in terms of price to experiment. Many grinding games are way wors tho… But still i see no reason to why experimenting and having fun should be punished.
Easy to misread “which in the endgame become plentyful”, I agree.
It might not have been your intent, that’s why I asked if I got it wrong.
That’s the vocal minority fallacy I tried to communicate. Unhappy people are much more likely to voice their opinion, often in a pretty heated fashion. Read some of the first entries of the complaints - that’s someone agitated writing, not someone who has given an idea a considerable thought.
People who THEN say they like it are often discredited as “White Knights”. Many of them, to be honest, can be quite a troll.
Oh the horror, the horrorz!!
Though I think you misspelled droll. It is only 1 letter different & they’re even fairly close on the keyboard.
What I wanted to say: “Many witches are droll”
Something like this is what is needed at a bare minimum IMO. Something that mitigates the heavy burden the system puts on low to mid level characters. If it’s a minor issue at endgame as people say, then this is the only part of it that needs tweaking.
I still wouldn’t like it personally, but at least it wouldn’t be game breaking.
“Both sides will never agree so stop talking about it” is the way of immobilism.
You can also argue that it’s pragmatic, however I believe that people voicing their opinions on a matter proves that said matter is still relevant and important to them.
The day we stop talking about something is the day we don’t care about it anymore, which definitely isn’t the case here.
Bottom line is : never stop fighting for what you believe (kinda cheesy ngl)
I never said we should stop talking about it. I just said we should stop giving the same handful of arguments over and over and over and over and over again in the hopes that the other side will change your mind.
People already know why some people want this and why some don’t. At this point it’s much more helpful for your “cause” to simply choose one of the open threads that already have a high vote count, say me too and plant your vote.
Arguing the same thing over and over just leads to irritation for the other side (and this is just not exclusive to one side, this is the same for both sides) and opening multiple threads about this just makes it less visible to the devs, rather than the single thread with hundreds of votes.
The respec is set up the way it is so you can’t change builds on the fly for bosses. They don’t want you to have a clear build and a boss build in one character, jumping back and forth between them willy nilly.
Get over it. This issue is old
The only reason anyone is still talking about this is because last week the game got a massive influx of players who have never seen it before. That’s it. There’s nothing new for anyone to say about this, it’s just new people making the same complaints that have already been addressed.
The value of preventing players that will sacrifice fun for bigger theoretical spreadsheet numbers from turning the game into a “swap to X build for boss, swap to Y build for clear, swap to Z build for this dungeon” shitfest outweighs the incredibly minor inconvenience of not immediately being at “full power” by a million miles. Get on board or go play Diablo.
At what point does it become people just screaming into the void at each other? Feels like we passed that point a while ago, & we’re gradually slipping down towards the singularity not noticing that we’re being spaghetified.
Why do you care if some people are into that? And I can’t imagine the majority of people doing that. That seems like a weird and weak argument tbh.
More to the point, why do the devs care?
And yet it’s the one the devs make, go figure!
If the game allows this, this becomes the meta, just like it is in D3. And if LE changes that, it will appeal to different types of players, namely the casual crowd that doesn’t like grind and want instant gratification.
That’s not what LE is nor the type of players they’re aiming for.
Are you the devs? Why are you white-knighting like that against this idea?
If you disagree with me just ignore me. Same thing.