December Development Update: 0.9.0 Date Locked!

your whole argumentation looks flawed to most people answering you

This is easy to explain, please pay attention to understand what I will write very carefully and slowly so you can read without any translation problem: You guys just want to be right ignoring the fact my suggestion just please most of players (including you all replying and complaning for nothing) probably because accepting the truth: dev’s just don’t want extra work could be too much for you to handle.

I don’t know how you end up with 50%

Maybe because the expression “about even” used by Xolak in his comment is similar to EQUAL? BALANCED? How in the hell Xolak came up with “ABOUT EVEN” for something which is 33% and also have the wood face to write “your math is wrong” KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK Read his comment again KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK come on… it’s not too hard to understand!

LE is Gold

You ignored the facts I’ve wrote just to try to be right, but guess what you are still very wrong?
I think there was translation problem on this section. Please translate English into English.

call LE a success but it’s up to them

You asked to define success, I defined success and now “success” sudenlly became a “subjective matter” instead of real matter? Not to mention we are not talking about price definition to a product for profit… How am I supposed to keep replying to your nonsense and not considering you a waste of my time? Question of the year!

At least on your last paragraph we agreed. They will improve, for sure.

You make me laugh all the time, so…

What I said, and I’ll quote it for you:

trade vs no trade ended up about even

There are 3 options. One of them is indifferent. The other 2 are trade/no trade. So yes, 33% does, in fact, equal 33%. Those are equal. Equality does not always mean two things are both half of a total.

Edit:
If you really want to manipulate the data, you could say something like “only 33% of people are happy about this” and that would be true.

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I can show you, but it would need to involve me being a lot drunker than I am.

I’m really not sure about that, but thanks for the hyperbole, it’s always helpful in a discussion.

It’s one metric for success, yes, but not the only one.

You can’t leave us hanging, what do they mean?

That game looks so bad, I’m glad some people have enjoyed it but for me, not so much.

Yes, all three options were reasonably evenly split. Since there were three (3) options, “even” means 1/3 or 33% (ish). If there were only two (2) options then you would be correct. But there weren’t. Even/equal/balanced does not mean 50%(ish) when there are more than two (2) options.

Success is a subjective matter as it depends on the definition or metric used. There’s commercial success (sales, profit) that you used but there are others such as critical success (what the critics think of it), artistic, user numbers (which will be closely corellated to commercial success for a game with a box price), and, frankly, anything else you can choose to measure.

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You brought no facts up that I could ignore. Your suggestion is more work then most options suggested in other places. So again… pretty please… reread what was said slowly and carefully and give it a thought. I don’t have high hopes but maybe it clicks.

Yeah 900 people answered the poll while every group had about equal numbers arround 300 or 1/3 of the votes… that’s pretty much equal and balanced ^^ MHKAY.

I always ignore “facts” of people who try to be right… lol?

Yeah because some people have another definition then yours and I made examples so what?

You can simply… erm… stop? Pretty please?

In the last paragraph I said that I doubt they improve or even keep up with past performances :smiley: .

That’s the most fun I had this year :slight_smile:

You make me laugh all the time, so…

Yeah, and you make a lot laugh. Next time you would say somehting like “the richest man in the world took bad decisions” look to yourself and what you achieved.

You don’t need to quote because I’ve already did. You showed 3 options, and stated only two on your comment. Trade or no trade (2 options) ended up about even (50%, like 100% divided by 2) when it’s 33% from the beginning and your corrected comment need to be: Trade, no trade and *people who does not care" ended about even. 2 options even will always be 50%, 3 options even will always be 33%, but you stated 2 options on 3 options pool an call it even.
I think now it’s clear.

I’m really not sure about that, but thanks for the hyperbole, it’s always helpful in a discussion.

It’s not an hyperbole it’s a real fact. How do I know? Because I have played both? Gpu temp is higher in LE about 9 degrees even with Vsync or Gsync comparison. But to discuss that it’s just to waste time, cause the dev’s already announced a huge performance improvement for next patch, so we just have to wait.

When will the sign up link/post go up for the pack the server one on Feb 2nd? Hoping my brother can get in to test multiplayer out too. (Yes he owns the game)

Your suggestion is more work then most options suggested in other places.

You paid for a product and don’t want the sellers to work and deliver? I see, so you donated with passion on your heart! How beautiful! I though you bought a product expecting it to be completed with a good multiplayer which can please everyone. My bad.

Yeah 900 people answered the poll while every group had about equal numbers arround 300 or 1/3 of the votes… that’s pretty much equal and balanced ^^ MHKAY.

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I always ignore “facts” of people who try to be right… lol?

Yes. Take a look on this specific topic. What I’ve answered and what you answered. Clear enough to me.

Yeah because some people have another definition then yours and I made examples so what?

There are things in life you can’t just “define” by yourself as a subjective matter and call it right. Like “for me the sun is a fruit” when it’s not, no matter how you want it to be.

You can simply… erm… stop? Pretty please?

That’s a good suggestion, but I’m a polite person and also want to keep this topic hot cause all this conflict generated may lead to a good result for us all (not only to me).

In the last paragraph I said that I doubt they improve or even keep up with past performances. That’s the most fun I had this year

Yeah and I was being ironic, mind you.

How much more of a delay do you want?

So you don’t think its reasonable to criticise higher paid/richer/more attractive/whatever people? Do you think Elon Musk would say he’s never made a bad decision?

Hopefully yes. I also don’t think that there’s been anything new said (on either side) for a while.

True, but maths generally isn’t one of them, especially simple maths such as describing 3 options each having roughly 1/3 of the total as even. Even does not always equal 50:50.

I said this too. Maybe I said it in an overly complicated way?

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Don’t waste any more of your breath arguing.

They don’t want worthwhile discussion. They just want to vent. A lot of these “no trade = dead game” types are upset that EHG doesn’t want the game to be a second Path of Exile. Nothing anyone can say or do is going to change their minds.

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Yeah, I get that though, venting is important, it’s cathartic. I also might be slightly drunk, but I can still spell better than @boardman21.

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How much more of a delay do you want?

No need for a delay they can just add this later. No hurry. We have 2 systems ready. Free trade can come later, BUT need to come.

So you don’t think its reasonable to criticise whatever people?

Not in the way he said on the financial/investment matter. You cannot criticize something is far beyond your reach. It’s juvenal to say the least. Imagine a biker criticizing a cardiologist’s surgery.

Hopefully yes. I also don’t think that there’s been anything new said (on either side) for a while.

I will give your 2 cents, you are probably right.

True, but maths generally isn’t one of them, especially simple maths such as describing 3 options each having roughly 1/3 of the total as even. Even does not always equal 50:50.

When a print tells everything you missed :smiley: https://imgur.com/UUEXo93

I said this too. Maybe I said it in an overly complicated way?

I explained already here if you missed (probably not) https://imgur.com/UUEXo93
If you couldn’t understand it’s because is beyond your reach. No shame on that.

Nothing anyone can say or do is going to change their minds.

I won’t deny :smiley:

Ah ah, I had missed this post, this is fascinating.
The amount of efforts to make such a simple matter look complicated and blurry is amazing, along with the complete denial of common sense and reality. All that just to avoid admitting having been wrong in the first place…

I guess that’s how conspiracy theories are born and thrive on the internet.
I hope I have enough popcorn…

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If the cardiologist ends up with someone dead on the table or an otherwise botched surgery?

If the cardiologist ends up with someone dead on the table or an otherwise botched surgery?

Do you prefer to have a heart surgery with a biker? The biker would make any difference giving “tips” to a professional on a matter he does not know anything?