CoF vs MG

Explode Ballista Falconer, Zeus dagger marksman, and Frost Claw Runemaster

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How long do you farm in MG to get 20 million Gold, trading included.
Based on the falcon bow with 3 lp and kinda decent roles.
I bet you need days to even get there if not 1 week or smth. And thats only if you like 500c plus.
I got four 3LP Falconbows with CoF in like 6 Hours thats like 80m gold.
I Bet in MG you would need like 2 weeks to get there.
In the end it probably is as i said the better you are the easier you get your stuff, but if you are stuck at 100c like most of the ppl you will never get to see a decent 3 lp item.
Which is fine in some way but still i think the prices are too high.
The worth is determind by the player who sells it which doent mean that this is the actual value.

Zeus dagger is basicly the detonating arrow lightning build with thsoe 2 unique Daggers?

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Yeah, Jelkhor daggers and right now iā€™m running low life, cause i donā€™t have the chest of the mountain. Falconer build i use two swords, donā€™t need bow, and only need 2LP for prefixes. But again, when i play, i play, like 16hours / day. Right now i have 250 hours played in LE, and i only started 1 week after 1.0. I play a lot :smiley:

It depends on luck, you can farm for hours with nothing valuable, or can get a 20m single item drop. Ofcourse you need experience to evaluate which item costs what.

Favor expenses different though, I have 999,999 favor in MG and it cannot be spent.

I have been running 0 favor, instant spending in CoF.

Wherever I spend favor in MG I either buy good items as an upgrade (deterministically) or sell stuff to make money (Ā± source of income)

I spent a million of favor in CoF, 30 hours of grind and got no gear upgrade what so ever, I got some items for other classes and builds, that cannot be used or traded, because I am in the CoF.

CoF could only be salvaged, if we could enter our desired item drops in the prophecies, and target farm them, including boss uniques. For now it is a disaster. Spend 60k favor, to loot 2x irrelevant 1lp helmets?!

Probably not as long as you think, I presume by Falconbow you mean Talons of Valor? If that is then case then did they come from the Fall of the Outcasts boss?

If you are getting most of your 3LP from Bosses then Probably not much longer than you if any at all, my understanding is that CoF currently does not work on bosses.

CoF gives no bonus to boss-specific drops. Otherwise CoF bonuses apply as much to drops from bosses as they do to drops from any other mob. Talons of Valor is not a boss-specific drop.

Nah this Bow can drop anywhere, i did it with random CoF Bow Prophecys.
But i have Tier 10 and i use the double drop lens so i get like 8-16 bows per CoF.
And im on 500c so this makes it even better.

Its some Luck + knowledge.
And in MG you need even more luck for drops and knowledge doesnt help much, gold only scales with corruption and you cant rly push your luck with specific prophecies.

Iā€™m rank 5 in MF, swapped after rank 6 CoF. It was mentioned earlier that MF can turn into a gold grind as youā€™re now just buying things, and thatā€™s true. In my shoes though, I get to play an hour or so per day, so taking the RNG out of it to a degree fits with my playstyle. I enjoy the gameplay, and slowly working towards putting gear together for a base level build. If I gather x gold over y time, I KNOW Iā€™ll get the item, and not have to wait months for it otherwise. And in the process, who knows, something might drop anyway.

Iā€™ve come to enjoy that method. Personally, I think the loot is so crap and the stats are so random, that CoF and MG should both be accessible because youā€™re never getting anything you want anyway, and when you do, youā€™ll just brick it crafting because all thatā€™s random tooā€¦ but thatā€™s a diff topic.

The thing that weā€™re stuck on right now is the chore of stability grinding. My friend and I are now at empowered monos, and seeing the 900 stability for a crack at the boss really took the wind out of our sails. We did it once and when we both didnā€™t get a decent blessing choice, we just sighed and logged off for the night. When I want to farm the boss, I want to farm the boss, not do 25 echos THEN the boss.

The build im playing at 200-300 corruption monos. Ive been calling it thor build tho.

Where mg shines early on is stuff like idols and small tweaks. Need a resistance? Quickly find idols that work for you. There are 0 lp uniques that help many builds too like peak of mountain, no lp but 250%-ish increase in critical strike chance is huge to free up some affixs for something else.

There is only problem in the end game. End game items are costing from 60mln to 1.5bln. You may need a dozen of each type to get a proper exalt slam on the Julra.

BTW you can thank gold sellers and gold buyers for that, because people who buy gold for real life money can have billions of it and prices got inflated.

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Ok that makes a lot more sense. Still it would rather annoying for those builds that require boss specific items. Can those items drop out of prophecies? If not then this change needs to happen.

Interesting, I am not sure corruption makes a huge difference here as both sides are able to utilise this, unless of course the CoF chance is Multiplicative on top of your corruption then that would make a significant difference, I cannot see this being the case though.

I was not aware that prophecies dropped so many items at once, as this really is the final determining factor. It is pretty straight forward that CoF actual increase in LP/Exalt ect is not a big difference however if you are getting that many more items then this does significantly increase your chances at getting what you need.

I still donā€™t beleive CoF would pull ahead of MG in terms of target farm specific items, but I believe that it is a lot closer than I originally thought.

To answer your earlier question about how long it would take to farm 20m? It really is difficult to say. The market currently is really messed up, this is partly due to a lack of proper search functions in the stalls and I believe a lack of knowledge of the player base, people have only just begun to understand what is actually GOOD and worth selling.

With the right knowledge you can probably get 2-3 Exalts worth selling per hour that are worth anywhere from 3-5m. This is a rough estimate but lets go with maybe 10-15m per hour.

It could be more and it could be less, I am definatly not sitting at 500 corruption so that makes a difference, I have not bothered to climb above 200 (I can I am just playing alts instead).

Either way, I have not determined gold to be a huge issue farming wise for MG and it certainly does not seem like weeks at a time to get an item I want, possible a day or two depending on how often you play and how lucky you are.

Prophecies canā€™t get you boss/dungeon-specific drops, only drops that you can get anywhere.

Probably just dont know how to sell. I made close to 10M gold in one hour by using my cof runes to make some decent exalteds and selling them for huge profit, i could buy 4lp items at any moment.

The real reason prices sky rocket has to do with rmt. Cant even begin to imagine how bad it must be on legacy. Gold cap per item

Dude u can buy whatever u want on the market meanwhile whit fortune guild its all rng
I havent found a single 3 lp item for my build yet ,but its fine its rng .

At Tier 8 or 9 you can whatever you want, IF you have Millions in the bank yes

Im not a market guy in Arpgs so probably ture for me, but i know on which paste a average player progresses and there is no way a player like that will see a 3LP item ever in MG.

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