COF needs bossdrop buffs

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hey im currently lvl 92 now and i spend literally all my time since lvl 78 farming that dragon timeline for that one item i need off the dragon boss, i killed him about 15-20 times on 100-200 corruption and it didnt even drop once jet. for the build i wanna do i need that thing with +3 to my skill im using so i basicly need at least 4 of them with lp1 to have a chance of getting it because its like 1/4 to get exactly this mod on it.

so lets do the math. les “imagine” it would drop once every 20 runns, thats like one with lp1 every 200isch runns, so i would need to kill him about 800 times to 4lp1 to have a realistic chance to get what i need to play the build.

i think that chance is just way too low, im playing 3 toons, i really dont wanna farm like weeks for one item thats build enabeling for me to play a build. i get its a game about random loot etc but it shouldent be that hard to get a 1lp item.

and yeah my other toons need bossdrops too, there is like no way i farm all that, also it feels super boring to just farm the exact same timetine all the time something has to change.

also its the same for dungeon boss drops right ? u cant do anyhting with cof too regrading that right ?

so tldr: i really like how cof works, but it seems really unfair compared to auction house i didnt even got my lvl100 blessings jet, im 92 now and ALL im doing for like 12+ lvls is farming this one item that didnt even drop once jet. im not a bitch, but i bet alot of ppl would have quit trying by now.

so please buff cof a little regrading bossdrops its straight up unfair/not fun.

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Amen to that brother…
Been farming Formosus for shackles and last steps at 700 corruption and it is PAINFUL…no drops like 3 times in a row or most of the times, drops with no LP which is the same thing as no drops. This is where COF hurts, having a build that requires strong boss drops with LP… I could have buy 2 of each with 3LP on the MG. For the rest, been very happy with COF. But we need a greater lense for % added to boss drops :slight_smile:

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I would be totally okay if they increase the drop rate of boss drops at the tier where it makes you drop an entire set instead of just one item. I find that to be close to nothing especially on the level it is at since most builds do not actually use set items as BiS items.

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Thats actually a great idea…All the sets drops are actually a tremendous waste of green…

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I’m gonna assume you mean Twisted Heart.

I took me about 10 kills to get my first one, (and about 5-7 more I think to see a second one) so I’ld say you’re just being a bit unlucky.

As for the LP goes, I don’t know why you need extra skill on it (then why not just craft a +Level Relic with some extra defensives on it?) but CoF atleast gives you twice the LP chance on it. There are also 0 builds that actually require LP to function.

On top of that, CoF does help get you more and better Exalted Relics to slam into LP drops, assuming you’re actually saving up a few good ones, so you’re already more on your way than you think.

But yes, it’s all RNG, that’s what drops are. If you want certainty, I suggest you think about MG.

PS: The beauty of CoF is that you can go farm that same boss on another character and have it still drop with increased LP chance for them! There is no need to farm only with that character that needs the drop unless you’re playing a, SCF one.

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yea its twisted heart and there are builds that need lp on it, the frostclaw build i wanna play needs some extra lvls on it to function, kinda needs to be at least lvl 26, maybe it works on 24-25 too but it needs at least +4 or something like that. im not trying to bitch on my bad rng, i just think there should be ways to increase ods for bossdrops as cof player.

even if i assume one drop every 10 runns it would still take me an avarage of 400 runns for that one item thats way too much. im totally fine with lp2 / lp3 / lp4 beeing super rare but just getting a 1lp bossdrop shouldent take that much time.

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1 drop every 10 in CoF, with ~30% chance on LP means 1 in 35 runs, give or take. 1/4 to get the right +Level is 140, not 400. So you’re off about a factor of x3

As for Frost Claw skill, I just looked at the one on Maxroll that has +4 Claw on it:

If you drop the 2/3 Shiver Shell and the 1/1 Reowyn’s Veil, you’re only 1 point off. That could be Cold Star, or just drop the entire Cold Star branch together with Glamdring and you’re down to 21, which is enough with a basic Twisted Heart. (The 1st option is probably better with Heart due to the Ward though, especially as that guide runs Bleeding Heart as well)

I’m also doubting the knowledge of that guide, because it’s running 45% crit damage reduction, but opt for movement speed rather than extra reduction on boots.

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RNG is RNG. My guild in WoW killed a boss for an entire year, and never got one of the drops me, and another tank, were hoping for. Oddly enough, it dropped the first time I took one of my alts there, looking for a mount… a couple of expansions later.

That being said, not getting the item you are looking for after a dozen of so attempts, doesn’t suddenly feel better because, RNG is RNG.

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And the guy’s who’s guild has every alt offspec with that item is lurking somewhere here as well. I was just putting it into perspective.

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no idea if its on maxroll or not, dont think its the same build.
but when i think about needing even 3 maybe 4 more bossdrop items for the 3 toons that i play im kinda getting in the mood of “do i really want to?”

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Well you’re the only one that knows what the other build is, so I tried my best, now it’s your turn to figure it out!

And what specific drops do you “need” for all those builds? I can come up with tons of builds that need virtually 0 uniques to start and have fun with, and for the few dependant on a boss drop, you can play those other builds untill it drops. And even then, I can’t think of a single build that requires LP, I’m pretty sure I could make a build with a set and hit 200+ corruption. (Atleast, if it isn’t bugged, like Boardman’s)

So if your question comes down to only having fun once you have LP-uniques, then no, you probably don’t want to play CoF.

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were getting a bit too offtopic here, im good my builds work without those bossdrop items thats not the point : )

point is cof should have something with bosses, i really like the idea of changing rank 9 (that setstuff) to somehting with bosses.
at r9 you will have all set stuff anyways even if u dont bother with it and there are tonns of ways to get the set stuff you need, i think thats a fair/good idea.

maybe somehting like “everytime you kill a boss that can drop a boss item and you dont get it you get 10%increased chance to get it” or “everytime you kill a boss and you dont get the drop u have more chance to get it with lp” not sure what exactly would be best maybe you guys have some ideas : )

besides that i really like the game (stash tabs could be a little cheaper im a horder but thats not really a problem)

cheers

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I’ve played countless builds in this game having played over 1,5K hours and i enjoyed them all; forged guard not so much but hey :wink:

I will definitevly agree that LP are not needed to reach a decent amount of corruption high enough to see some improvement in loot drops and still have fun and feel comfy with ur toon (ie: not dying all the time). But SOMETIMES, sometimes u just want to push that build to the stratosphere and look god in the eye and say : MINMAX that in ur face dude !!!

But the popularity of the game has spawned tons of guides with unreachable goals gearwise for the common player who thinks that these builds are easily attainable like finding Shako :slight_smile:

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i mean imagine you could not buy bossdrops in trade, ppl would be furious i bet.

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All COF needs for bossdrops is badluck protection instead of the full set drop bonus. Make it so that the chances to hit the bosses rare droptable increases with each kill.

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ok i think im done with the game for now, i was almost lvl 95, still didnt find the relic, swapped to soulfire bastion for belt (didnt get anything after 8-9 runns ofc) and now i died to a “small glowing light?” with zero mobs on the screen and the next mob prolly at least 2-3 screens away, while i was standing infront of a door, had 3k ward 2k hp max res btw … ggs.

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It took me more over 55 kills to drop the Twisted Heart with min rolls and 0 lp. Meanwhile some random guy in MG can just buy it off the bazaar. That kind of grind alone makes me want to just dump CoF and switch to MG. God forbid I ever farm for a Twisted Heart with LP.

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So you’re searching for a ‘Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros’ then I imagine.

That item in itself is a so-called ‘chase item’ which by itself already is very powerful.
Also it’s counted as a ‘rare’ drop from that boss, so yeah, every 20 times maybe a single drop might be the thing you’re going after.

Go along and do ‘relic’ prophecies triggering in that boss for an extra chance.

Getting that by itself is already nice, with 1 LP an accomplishment, everything beyond something to have farmed for a ridiculous amount of time.

LP is a bonus mechanic beyond what you’ll ever need to finish all the content in the game. If you wanna push for the max the game can provide then expect to put in the respective amount of time. And with that I mean a few hundred hours at least, more likely.

Utterly ok for any unique which is rare. LP is a massive bonus there, not the baseline.

Not a single build ‘requires’ them. They’re massively empowering, but by no way required. Especially since you’re already doing 700 Corruption!

But overall I agree that CoF needs some target-farming potential. Picking a built which needs 24-25 skill points to even function is already a bit iffy I gotta say, those affixes are especially rare for a reason.

I personally would also always go movement speed above crit reduction, simply for the part that it gets you out of effects faster. But it’s a flavor thing there I would say, both ways are absolutely deadly to be lackluster in.

The set perk is utterly ridiculous, yes. Especially since it misses to list the lens-slot you get… as if anyone in their sane mind would ever actively farm for the set perk itself…
I don’t know what they took before deciding that but I want some of it as well. /s

That’s actually planned, 50% off in general.
So unless you need more hold off until next cycle and only buy the absolutely necessary amount.

Comparing it to a drop which happens every 50000 hours of play-time is a bit harsh there, but point taken :stuck_out_tongue:

MG is generally superior, nothing to say against that. Huge slump until rank 8 but then you have basically everything possibly available in the game at your fingertips.

The whole faction system setup is a mess currently and needs vast reworks.

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Incorrect a lot of classes need it, and i can say from experience

Void knight, shaman, druid, warlock ignite, lich, blade dancer, marksman all need 3 lp items and they need it on 4-5 items. Most dot builds need them and they need the formosus, fire lich or Lightless arbor specifically which are even harder.

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It also needs a bugfix, because I am CERTAIN that the rank 1 is not procing

I also want the lenses to INCREASE odds of content instead of being blockers for just one content type(I want to block 3 or even 4 content types, not JUST arena), plus for the content type to actually influence the rewards in an obvious way.