Apart from when you’re wrong or misunderstanding how the game works.
Unless there are uniques that require >>300c to drop, or there are affixes that similarly require >>300c to drop (such as t8, don’t worry, it doesn’t exist), then no, it’s a quantitative difference, higher corruption increases the item rarity bonus which gives you a higher chance to drop more exalted affixes on an item & the rarer uniques, plus faster/stronger builds can drop more items per hour (at a higher item rarity %) which gives them more attempts to drop the gear that they want. But it’s still possible to drop items with double/triple exalted affixes, it’s just significantly rarer at lower corruption.
Perhaps he’s going with the point of view that if a thing is “too rare” (ie, very unlikely to drop) then it might as well not exist, therefore those items don’t exist at “low” corruption, which I can get, but it’s also wrong, they’re just very rare.
Also, I think he plays MG, which lowers his chances to see them further, in CoF you have a significantly better chance to drop items with exalted affixes from the rank rewards plus prophecies. So maybe that’s skewing his world view further. But it doesn’t make him correct.
And I can accept this viewpoint, but that doesn’t mean the drops are different, just more likely to be better.
I’m still not sure that AbombDaChamp got the essence of my question, but after a while it seemed pointless to continue. When he used the word “BETTER” to describe the items you get at 1000c vs. 300c, I believe I was generous in interpreting this as a qualitative assessment of the items obtained at each level, and that they were actually DIFFERENT ITEMS of an objectively different level of quality. But his use of the word “BETTER” is still ambiguous and doesn’t really definitively answer my question. After I gave him that interpretation of “BETTER” he then stated that he was “repeating” that, and I didn’t bother to go back and check the record, but I was struck with the feeling that this was his first qualitative comparative statement.
Communication is very challenging when a person believes that the language they are using is sufficient to articulate their position, and the other person continues to ask for clarification, only to be met by the same response repeatedly. I don’t know why this player failed to just directly answer the question initially, his insistence that he did indicates either that he truly doesn’t understand the failure to communicate, or there are other, more nefarious explanations that I won’t bother to identify. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt that he just failed to understand my core question and how it sought to resolve the ambiguity of his prior statements.
Communication is a wonderful thing, when it happens.
That is because he doesn’t actually have an answer. He talks vaguely about some players doing spreadsheets and that the you need to be between 700-1000c, but then he goes on to say that 1300c isn’t as good, which is just dumb. If your build can comfortably farm 1300c, it will always be better than farming lower.
Most of his arguments always boil down to “It’s a fact because that is how I see it and if you don’t see it that way you’re wrong”.
I did except you aren’t understanding the Data and the level of power a Build needs. Which is critical when players are looking for a build to play…aka Season 2 build guides.
Last night Empyrian in his stream explained the rewards. At 500c is the first steep decline and at 1,000c it’s a hard cutoff and no point in going past that unless you are pushing just for fun.
So if you are “Farming” which is what we are talking about since that is why we are playing an ARPG. Empy said - get too 500c at least however if you can clear 700c as fast as 500c do that because it is better. Why is it better? The rewards are better. You will get better quality gear.
There are forum warriors on these forums that want to deny what is the accepted standards by the community and it’s content creators. The standard is a successful build is required to farm 700-1,000c. It’s not complicated, these are the facts. Everyone knows this.
So what are we really discussing here when some forum warriors are trying to gaslight the majority of players? Who is right, the forum warriors or all the Data and what is known in the community.
It’s really not this complicated, the semantics are boring. If you want a successful build everyone knows it needs to be at 700-1,000c because…BECAUSE that is the way EHG designed the reward around.
I submit that your answer proves my point. You continue to state that the Data supports your view, but you never take the opportunity to explain that the Data answers the question that I am asking. I totally accept that the Data supports that it’s better to farm great items at 1000c than at 300c, but the question I’ve been asking is: better in what way? Because you will get the items you want faster, or because you get DIFFERENT ITEMS at 1000c, items that you would NEVER GET at 300c. See the difference?
You says “semantics are boring”. This is not about semantics, it’s about a very concrete issue that definitively defines a critical issue with respect to the differences in farming at 300c vs. 1000c.
This leads me to believe that I was right in assessing that you’re just not understanding the communication difference. I suspect you’ll take offense at that, but I invite anyone objectively reading this thread to tell me I’m wrong and why. I can accept being wrong, I do it all the time. But until you answer the question in a way that reflects an understanding of our miscommunication, the issue remains unresolved, even though it would be so simple for you to just resolve it.
Here’s an example of how you can resolve this here and now. Just say or endorse the following statement:
“Farming at 1000c will result in obtaining items that you will NEVER get farming at 300c, no matter how long you try”.
I know you believe this is semantics and that you’ve already answered that question, but any careful reader can see that you in fact have never made or endorsed that particular statement. Now it’s easy, just say “Yes, I endorse that statement, that’s the truth”. And then we’re done and can move on!
It does, it’s hard facts and why everyone says it.
Go look at it yourself and then you will understand why everyone says you farm 700-1,000c
They are because you are trolling and lazy. I’m stating facts and what the standards are for builds in the community. It’s stated over and over again by content/build creators and Data but you won’t budge and keep bringing up semantics. It’s just gaslighting. It’s boring.
True.
It’s been stated in 10 different ways. This is why we can’t have nice things, it’s because people on the forums like you extending a VERY simple conversation beyond the simple facts.
Again there is a reason why it’s widely accepted that you want to farm 700-1,000c. If you don’t believe me coolzies. Be oblivous that’s on you. Maybe go do some research and find out why everyone keeps stating what I’m stating. It’s not made up. Go ask Frozen for some spread sheets he has. Go ask Empy to go over the numbers like he did last night. Read into it some. At some point YOU need to do better. The facts are there the rest is on you.
I presume not. While I can accept & totally agree that you’d see a lot more higher quality gear at higher corruption, they’d all be possible to drop at lower corruption, just less likely. There is no T8 affixes that only spawn at 1k corruption or something similar.
I think his point of view is quite particular, that he’s so focussed on pushing difficulty/corruption that he just can’t get his mind around not doing that, or that the same stuff drops at lower corruption, just less of it, but it’s fundamentally the same stuff.
And he’s blocked anyone who disagrees with him.
No, I don’t think he does.
See? Anyone who doesn’t agree/bow to his view point is either lazy, stupid or being obstreperous.
How so? Can you get T8 affixes? Can you get double exalteds (that I can get in normal monos with the CoF rank rewards)? Can you get triple exalteds (that I could probably get, albeit rarely) in empowered monos at much lower than 700-1,000 c due to the CoF rewards? The gear you get at high corruption can drop at low corruption, it’s just less likely so you’ll see less of it & thus you’re less likely to find usable double/triple exalted gear. But that doesn’t mean that double/triple exalted gear can only drop at high corruption.
