Servers are running like complete garbage. You can see from steamcharts that bots have begun to overload the servers as of 2 days ago. These botters think this is lost ark or something
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Looking at the chart doesnât jive with what your saying about overloading. I know what you mean about the spam and all but server pop is much less than it was this past weekend.
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No bots playing offline, itâs the best way to play the game
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The chart shows that bots are evening out the daily ups and downs in server traffic that occur when real people are playing. And yeah, it looks pretty bad.
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The chart literally says nothing about bots at all. You are making it up in your head.
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Looking at steam charts for past 48 hours, your correct. The base dip always falls to same line, aka that is what the bot floor begins as you see it spike up every day on the dime at 6am, then somehow it slowly goes down over 24 hours, then drops off the cliff, and then 2 hours later sky rockets.
In a game with no bots, the game forms a wave line, similar to a wave as 24 hours in a day, people at work so goes down, and then rises after work, and then goes down, then other aide of world wakes up, and cycle
It should be lkke this: ________/~~~~~ \ ______ /--------
The numbers show the opposite: the player count spikes when people are st work, and decrease when people would be online. And then plummets at time people should be on activly, as botters hide offljne to not get banned, as only wealthy people play the game at 12am on a weekday, and those are the people they farming, they wont risk gold selling against normal players
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Look, I just made a thread in Suggestions for reporting bots/goldsellers, so Iâm not going to deny they exist and are disruptive, but there are so many weird assumptions doing a lot of heavy lifting here.
This assumes everyone is playing in the same time zone, which is absolutely not the case. It also assumes that most people are working typical 9 to 5 type jobs. Loads of jobs (including anything retail, hospitality or service industry) works different hours.
Do they? As far as I can tell, thereâs no easy way to report these accounts to get them banned in LE, and my experience in every other online game ever is that the bots are active when the players are, so they can reach the largest audience.
This is just an insane statement. Also unemployed people, who are less likely to be wealthy, or anyone working a job that has nonstandard hours. Also even people who work relatively typical hours might have a bedtime later than midnight! That isnât even factoring in the fact that your midnight might be my 9pm.
Again, absolutely begging the question.
These accounts exist and you can see them because theyâre spamming their gold selling messages in global chats, but if weâre going to argue they are a problem that needs addressed it should be on actual factual reasons and evidence and not bizarre claims like âonly rich people play late on weeknightsâ or âbots log out during peak hours to avoid players.â
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Your right i did not think about unemployed people, as i made the assumption unemployed people would be unable to buy the game as they are unemployed and have no money. May be falcy in my thinking.
On topic of 9-5, i would not assume so. Some people start at 5am, some at 9pm. But vast majority of people work during day, regardless of exact time. We would still see on average a decline during work time. What we see in game is a meteoric rise during worktime, time frame is irrelevant as margins of how abnormal that is to me at least cant be explained.
Now on topic of who buys gold in these games, is hard to say, as we just do not know. But in general, normies have most to loose for trusting a RMT seller and loosing to a scammer, why most normies dont buy gold. A rich person who has a ton of resources, probably 5-6 credit cards, and 5 yauhts wont care, as such is more willing to take risks.
I could be wrong, its just my interpretation. I do not claim to be right, just my logic in work
I mean its already been pretty established in the game industry that a flat line means bots are padding the ups and downs that a normal game has when players log on and off during times of days. This isnt even a debate anymore lol. This games got a serious bot problem with gold sellers. These guys need to get on the ball with permabans.
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The only thing I see is reduced player numbers and it looks like the honeymoon phase is over.
Are we looking at the same chart? The graph shows the same kind of numbers over the past week.
You know there are these things called âtimezonesâ donât you? And that there are these other things called âcountriesâ where âforeignâ people live and that they are usually in different âtimezonesâ. I donât know what time the charts use, but if it were one of the US timezones that would make sense, the EU starts playing around 4-6pm which is a bit before 12 in the US & start to drop off as the US starts to come online to play. Maybe thereâs a decent % of players in the far east to keep the numbers as high as they are until the EU starts playing again.
The only weird thing is the dip to zero around 11am.
While this is true, my 7pm (when Iâm home and have cooked some dinner) is your 11am-2pm depending on where in the US you are. And you can shift those times back an hour for the EU.
Please stop thinking that only the US plays games, or that the US makes up the vast majority of the people playing LE.
While that is true in principle, I doubt that thete ate many people with âyauhtsâ playing LE. But yes, people with higher disposable income are less likely to notice either forking out for a new account or the spend to buy gold.
@JadedJunglist yes, but we also know that there are players all over the world playing LE, probably mostly in the EU & US which would also smooth out the normal peaks & troughs. Focussing on a small period of time also smooths things out, if you focus on the trees you have difficulty spotting the forest.
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Games have players from around the world, a big rise could easily be a lot of players in a different time zone. In fact, you can check the player count for monster hunter world, a single player/coop game that definitely doesnât have bots, and it still has ups and downs. Some regions have more players, hence the peaks.
Are there bots in LE? Most likely, as it is a multiplayer game with trading and these games attract bots, but steam player count doesnât seem like a good way to gauge how many bots there are.
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If you look at any game profile on steamcharts you see a drop to 0 at 11am between 28 Feb - 5 March. Thatâs most likely a steamchart problem that didnât happen before the 28th of Feb and not happening since the 5th of March.
There are bots in the game but not to the extent you want to imagine based on this chart.
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This hitler style comments deserve a ban ASAP.
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Hard to believe that I agree with you on something for a change 
You made yet another assumption. You put all unemployed people in one category and assume poor.
When I went to college I was more than provided for and was unemployed. A guy I was introduced to inherited a large amount of money, quit his job and for a few years did nothing but purchase property. Retired after about 5 years of work. I had breakfast w/him at a restaurant and I was like, uh $20 breakfast? He did it daily because he didnât want to go shop for groceries. He didnât play video games but had other hobbies.
Some unemployed people are poor but it doesnât mean they cannot afford stuff. They might have to be more selective in what they purchase but LE is really cheap for a game. I had a family member on disability not by choice. They didnât take vacations to some dream location but was able to have forums of entertainment.
Ever been to a trailer park? I havenât but I was driving on a road once and noticed satellite TV on these trailers I was passing by which is way more expensive than a $35 game. People even if unemployed have entertainment. They just might not be able to afford the new stuff or might need to save money.
I talked to a guy once who worked w/retirement planning. I was amazed at some of the things he told me. Letâs just say employment doesnât mean you can actually afford things. Most Americans are in debt and if you owe money, no retirement plan then I would argue you probably shouldnât purchase even a $35 game.
Yes I believe you have an error in your ability to âthinkâ.
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Glad to see youâre a student of history.
âEstablished in the game industryâ is a weird way of saying âOne time I read a comment from a crackpot on Reddit and swallowed it wholeâ.
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Bots only seem to message every 20 minutes or so(before getting banned almost immediatly)
It is nothing like the 1 per minute spam of PoE
this thread is incredible