The “journey” was to point out that adding ladders to legacy is just going to be a worse cycle ladders in every way. The only way to make them feel even remotely fun to compete on would be to just make them equal to cycle ladders… At which point… Just play cycle.
Ultimately, I think the current structure for ladders aren’t conducive for quality competition as it eventually becomes a test of endurance rather than skill. How many people stop at wave 300 when they could do wave 1500 if they kept going? Hard to say, but having a tier system (copper, silver, gold, platinum for example) with each tier having a set number of waves and it being a time trial situation with an endurance board for the more tanky but slow builds (see how long you can last, basically what we have now) would be a good start for competition. Require placing in the top 25 % to move to the next tier or something with no requirements for the current endurance trials
You’re solely arguing from your standpoint though?
Those types of ladders are existing in other games, the exact ones I mentioned even.
They’re enjoyed by people.
So that argument by itself can’t hold true.
And the current structure of ladders is in no way qualitative competition anyway because it’s a very limited in structure, if EHG wanted to focus on having a competitive environment available in the first place - which they don’t, it’s a side-thought at best - then they would’ve invested effort into providing a higher variance of them.
Highest level of corruption per timeline pushed.
Amount of timeline bosses killed in a timeframe.
Aberroth kills.
Gold collected.
Normal enemies killed.
And more.
There’s a slew of options available, LE is not made to provide it in the first place - which is fine - but for competition variance is a major aspect. The more variety you have the more likely that you can pick your specific niche to compete in and be… actually competitive there.
This can come in a variety of time limits as well, cyclic, permanent, weekly, daily, hourly even… you name it.
Those generally provide a upside and not a downside, I wouldn’t have seen any game where it has caused a negative impact unless it’s badly set up and it’s a direct player vs player competition.
Not to speak that some not so smart people usually go for the illegitimate route which allows EHG to remove them from the online game environment, otherwise being hidden. It can have a dual purpose as well.
Man this reset is killing me. I just got my first Smoke Weaver drop from a Nemesis (zero LP). A few hours later I got zero LP RazorFall boots. I have Dragorath’s Claw and Enigma (both zero LP). I have 2x runes of Creation, and 4x runes of Ascendance. This means I can get my 2nd Smoke Weaver with Creation, or can clone my Dragorath and Enigma via Creation. If I get lucky with Ascendance popping either a Dragorath, Enigma, Smoke Weaver, or Mad Alchemist’s Ladle, then I have at least 4-5 builds almost ready for transition. I can even skip trying for Mad Alchemist’s Ladle because I have a zero LP Triboelectra that was upgraded via the nemesis egg. If my strategy is right, I can:
knock off a series of targets triggering fat pools of loot
this should compress the farming time
the fat pools of loot might set me up with 4-6 pieces of end game items, for 4-6 builds.
What comes after the above would be chain farming Julra for slamming purposes. Chain farming the dungeons might also produce high value goodies. Just gearing and leveling 3 chars to level 85-87 means not getting bored. Lots of fun to have. I’m doing this off-line. If this were online with friends, the amount of fun would be off the charts.
I would like to see this in action. Is the build squishy? Where are the weak points (no pun intended, LoL)? Can the build function without uniques or are certain uniques required? I just got Dragonsong and Gathering Fury (this rolled with 85% increased fire damage). Also, what is the highest corruption you’ve achieved so far?
You’ll have plenty of time. Just wait 10 days and you’re good to go.
Why is it killing you? They’re updating the game, bringing improvements and new features.
If this is such a killer to you, maybe you should step aside for a moment, maybe go play LastEpoch Planner for a week, trying to find what will be the best build for you to easily achieve your goals on the new cycle.
Or maybe even play other games, I don’t know… But if this is triggering such sentiments to you, maybe it’s a good a idea to take a break, at least until they roll out the reset.
Sorry to bring it to you, but you cannot use Rune of Creation to duplicate a unique item.
Cuz, I’m on the cusp of being able to enjoy several builds and speedfarm with them. I have some of the drops needed to transition out of the leveling build (usually between level 50 and 60). I already burned my 8th rune of ascension. While it is exciting when those runes drop, getting an Alchemists Ladle for the 3rd time is quite disappointing.
Part of this is experimentation and learning. I’m not an LE expert so even if I studied the planner it is not enough because a build requires skills, passives, gear, understanding of the game’s mechanics, boss encounters, and of course how to put the first 3 into action (playstyle). Getting those under my proverbial belt leads to theorycrafting and time spent in the planner. This means even more characters for battle and pressure testing. Maybe it would have been worth jumping into LE during early access.
Theorycrafting is an important part of the game for me. In D3, during one of the PTR cycles, I proposed a Firebird Mirror Images build. The build performed so well that damn near the entire community hopped on it. The popularity skyrocketed to the point that the devs ended up nerfing it into oblivion (can’t have fun in Blizzard games cuz that is against the rules unfortunately). They also nerfed the build because it was pretty obvious that they didn’t intend for that build/playstyle to be viable let alone become the push build for soloing the end game. So, I’ll get to theorycrafting in LE eventually. Right now my focus is on fun and learning how the game works. Unfortunately, with this upcoming reset, EHG is blowing up my lab, while multiple experiments are in progress. AFAIK, EHG is not going to extend the cycle after the reset. So we’ll have a month and maybe a little bit more but not a full 3-4 months after the reset. With the abbreviated time between reset and end of cycle, the seemingly obvious route would be to scale back on the number of experiments and characters. The above make sense until one gets 3-5x 2-LP items with good rolls on them for those 1-3 builds that haven’t been tried yet. The above scenario begs for a new chars to be spun-up and tested.
As stated before I have Dragorath’s Claw, Enigma, and 2x runes of Creation. I can mirror the Dragorath and Enigma, which I have on my sorc, and put those replicas on a Spellblade. Same 2 items but very different builds and playstyles. I have internal questions that beg to be answered such as:
Which is tankier, Spellblade or Sorc?
Which has more damage output?
Which has faster clear speed?
Which has better boss killing ability?
Which is more fun?
Which can push higher corruption?
Which is easier to play?
It should be obvious by now that I’m and ARPG fan.
Well it’s still in the planning phases. I planned it all out and started it just after this announcement on Steam Deck. So far it’s performing very well with Self-Found gear in the campaign. I’m not sure if I’m going to go for the no-arming time + cone or arming time + suckerpunch for bigger explosions (when they happen, 15% chance and all) for Detonating Arrows.
But the Trap + Ballista synergy is really good even before I get the No Man’s Land node. Explosive Trap is unfortunately one of those skills that needs a lot of investment before it’s doing what you planned it to do. But it’s fun to throw down 6-7 traps away from a boss, turn and throw the final trap to explode on the boss and the first ones detonate in sequence, launching Arrows and spawning ballistas.
Not sure how well Hail of Arrows will fit at this time, but I think once Explosive Trap has a CD I’ll have more time to think about tossing it out.
You can’t use any form of “normal” crafting on the uniques. You can try & get another dagger from the Ascendance but you can’t copy the other uniques with the Creation.
How in the world this cycle reset (for seasonal online characters and even not a reset as a “wiped out hero crushing disaster”, but a transition to legacy) could affect your characters, if you are “doing it offline”?
Damn. I totally misread the description of the item. I guess I’m going to need more runes of ascendance and more farming. I guess runes of creation are mostly good for copying exalted items for legendary crafting purposes.
Yes, yes you do. You also get guaranteed critical successes on all crafting attempts & if you have one of the higher tier packs you can even upgrade them to t7 affixes.
Please pair any major changes with a cycle refresh. This should be happening on a regular basis. Ideally every 3-4 months. A league/cycle going longer than a few months is just agonizing and there is no point to play. Please consider rotating the cycle whenever you want to drop new content and align regular cycle refreshes with content drops large or small and have them every few months.
