yikes this decision in short term will be ok but long term its a truly bad one…
… YET.
It is absolutely astounding how either ignorant or naive you are at saying they won’t change things because they say they won’t. Do you honestly think they’d come in and says “yeah we’re going to clean house and turn your game into a f2p slop slot machine to drain players”….look at THE HISTORY OF WHAT THEY’VE DONE instead of what they say. You could have done something great and been the next big thing for arpgs but you went the way of short term reward and greed and now we all (your players who love this game) get to pay the price. I hope it doesn’t turn out for you all like it did the subnautica 2 team but if it does you deserve if for they level of ignorance and making a deal with the devil. Fucking shame on you.
You just ripped something thousands of people deeply care about away from them so you could have a pay day. Hope you’re happy with yourselves. You’re part of the problem and no different than all the companies your player base hates. You have no morals only greed. Sellout trash.
GGG has only exclusively gone downhill with tencent. Go look at player numbers since the partnership. They get a spike every new patch but they’ve universally trended down.
I have been playing the game for many years and bought a lot of MTX to support you guys. Honestly i wish you the best of luck going forward. However i will not be spending any more money on the game…
What horrible news to come out of this today. Seriously, you guys think this is a good move? A company that has destroyed other games now has the power to destroy yours. This game is going to die in no time.
RIP
all I know is that there is a file steam puts in the game folder that needs to be set to read only. That means they can’t/won’t update the game. I looked into it a while ago for a different reason
There’s no indication it’s due to Tencent. GGG clearly has mismanaged POE2 which led to them practically abandoning POE1 for a year. POE2 was originally scoped very differently, but at some point they decided they wanted it to be a very different game from POE1.
EHG got an offer they couldn’t refuse and they get to keep working on the game, if they want to I assume.
But it’s totally fair for people to now put the game and studio under more scrutiny going forward.
Not expecting full information obviously, but would be nice to know what some of the contract wording is as to IP ownership and rights to help alleviate some of the understandable concerns/worries about this partnership.
They did?
PoE’s been my main squeeze since alpha, and it’s pretty widely agreed upon that it’s gone sorely downhill since 10C took over, even if you ignore the forever negative neckbeards. Even the more rational swaths of the fanbase are fairly disappointed at how the game has been managed since the partnership.
Krafton… really?`
Aaaaaaand it’s gone
I was actually looking forward to the upcoming expansion, too.
Krafton is the group that completely deliberately screwed the subnautica developers, to the tune of at least 250 million dollars. There’s currently a huge lawsuit about the whole thing. It’s an extremely slimy publisher.
Please stop making saints from subnautica devs. Only 10% of this amount should have been received by the workers, not the bosses. And only if they release game in 2025 but game is not ready even for early access. And one of those bosses who sued Krafton and talking about how he loves his game with all his heart, had previously said that he was tired from making games and focusing on his films. Yeah i know that he said that game was ready for EA, but can you remember how unfinished below zero was? So stop making martyrs from subnautica co-founders and game director. If Krafton were really evil, they would have fired ordinary employees, not top-managers.
Hmm… I don’t trust Krafton. Not in the slightest. But I do have some trust on you EHG. I hope you have taken all necessary checks before you arrived at this decision. Cus I love your game. I wasn’t really an ARPG player until I found your game and I would hate for everything to fall apart now due to a mistake. For now, I’ll continue to support you guys and just hope that it all goes well.
I wish you guys the best of luck!
Eleventh Hour games is a company headquartered in Delaware and the employees all work remotely. Krafton is a Korean company with one North American office in San Francisco, CA (where the acquisition of the company that made Subnautica is located and presumably where the lawsuit will take place). It’s tough that companies have to keep things tight-lipped, but considering how many people are willing to dox and commit serious crimes to company people over a game, I’m not surprised.
Will Krafton open an office in the East Coast of the US to try and facilitate your team? How will your teams communicate with each other in efforts for your visions to align? Will the investment allow your team to access equipment and processes like optimization that would help accomplish a major goal in 6 months when it would otherwise take a year?
That’s the problem with large publishers: it’s impossible to tell whether a game dies by its own hand (like all the doom and gloomers saying the game was dead a few months after launch because of the rocky launch) or whether the publisher set unrealistic goals, or the developers themselves set unrealistic goals.
After all, disasters like PUBG (note, I’ve never played this game specifically) fail because the company wasn’t able to handle the meteoric rise in popularity, where problems happen in a large scale that would never happen in a smaller scale (after all, bots go after the big games, not tiny indie games).
Clearly, this game is incredibly ambitious and EHG has a really big vision. It’s always had a big vision, as shown by your roadmap. Each step of the development has its own make-or-break moment.
I simply wish that you continue to communicate your roadmap (including, if possible, any new goals you have in stock), and hope the game reaches the vision you’ve set out almost ten years ago. I’ve already bought your game, so no reason to do anything outside of see what lies in store.
Krafton huh? Hopefully they wont play you like they did with Unknown Worlds, but in case they do, don’t worry, we’ll be there to write “we told you so”
Why are you defending such a horrible group of people? We have multiple statements about the game having been ready for early access, and since all this came out is has become apparent that they deliberately removed features from the game to cause the delay ON PURPOSE just so they didn’t have to pay the subnautica team. I’m not saying the Subnautica people are angels or anything, but let’s not pretend that Krafton’s hands are clean here.
And to think i had hope for this game, that it might grow into something wonderful. To think that i’ve shilled this game to friends too. Bloody Krafton, of all corpos.
Rest In Peace, Last Epoch and Eleventh Hour Games.
That’s what big corps taking over always say: same team, keep values, no changes… and then everything gets worse. Get out of there if you still can, otherwise rip.