I bought all the supporter packs I could to support EHG in the past, my question is, from now on since Crafton acquisiton will any of the money go to EHG or will it go to Crafton or is it some sort of split? If it will go all to Crafton, how much will hurt the game since the sentiment of supporting indie studio is gone. I would probably pass on any further purchases since I don’t care about cosmetics and it was purely based on my intention of supporting EHG not anything I got from it. Sorry if this is silly question, just wondering and hoping that you can continue creating one of best ARPGs available now (basically only real contenders are PoE1 and 2)
Krafton, obviously, since EHG are now simply a department of their new overlords. While Judd claims they’ll retain their own identity, in corporate terms any money the game makes is Krafton’s to do with as they wish, if they choose to give some to their EHG department it’s their choice.
Ok, thanks. So no money from me until I can buy hoodie, artbook or something simillar if game won’t go wrong way untill then.
I am really not interested in all of that coperate or political drama, but I would not worry about where they money is going exactly.
Either you like the game or not and support it or not. If you are unsure and on the fence about sepending money on the game, wait for S3 to drop and test it and if you are happy with it I would still encourage you to support LE. If you are still unsure about it maybe wait until S4 and see if you like that as well.
At the end of the day, whereever the money is going if nobody supports LE anymore the game will not become better or grow. If you think the game deserves to be supported, go ahead and do so.
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Agreed, if I pay for the product directly then sure. Or if I pay for the MTX directly since I want that specific MTX.
But if I do it to support the game I’m definitely looking at who exactly my money reaches and if they’re worthy to get money for that kind of reason.
No. The money goes to EHG unless there’s a section in the acquisition contract which states otherwise. There’s more scenarios but I can’t be arsed to detail them.
As a soulless corporate drone, it’s really not.
Pretty much.
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Nope LE will not see another dime from me. I’m unhappy how things went for a to long time. From my past experiences I can make only one educated guess and that guess is that things will go down sooner or later. I’m not burning my money on colorfull pixels when my primary feeling is “This will not work out for me.”.
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Yes, it goes to the name EHG. But not to the decision-makers EHG. That’s the core difference.
They might make decisions of all sorts still, sure! But only as long as it aligns with Krafton’s premise. If not Krafting comes in and says ‘Do xyz instead’ and EHG has to follow, no matter what they say.
If Krafton says ‘Make it a subscription model system’ then EHG has to follow along doing it.
If Krafton says ‘Only focus on MTX for a year’ then EHG has to follow along doing it.
Obviously it’s Krafton’s to do with as they wish? They own it after all?
I mean… imagine buying a bakery and the money going in then is not yours to do as you wish… who else? 
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It was never going to Judd/Mike/etc, so it was never going to the “decision-makers”.
It depends how the new owners want to play it. If they start taking cash out, which would have to be a dividend which would require a board meeting & approval (which given Krafton are the majority owners would presumably be passed). I say this to highlight that as a subsidiary there are requirements to how that kind of thing would have to be done to not be illegal. They couldn’t say “just start paying all the supporter pack cash to us”. Alternatively they could be changed from a subsidiary to a branch, then they could have all the cash transferred direct to Krafton HQ’s mega-yacht fund, but that has consequences too since that would then give Krafton a legal presence in every country that EHG has staff members (which is quite a few) which has legal & tax repercussions.
No, but there would be repercussions for the individual (& potentially for the soulless Kraftonite attempting to fire the stalwart EHGer).
Depends whether they are a subsidiary or a branch. Do you know the difference? Do you know which they are? EHG being a subsidiary is more likely.
Do you honestly believe that the cash from supporter packs went directly to whoever the original owners were? 'Cause that situation hasn’t changed, all that’s changed is who they are.
Judd confirmed that when I asked about what the news mean exactly.
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Or, more likely, forcing that on the game will simply cause most of the team to leave and kill the game.
Since Judd himself said not to give any money to LE if you ever see any P2W feature in the game, it’s likely that if they were forced to do that by Krafton they would leave even before implementing such a thing.
Given the base premise of LE, it’s not likely Krafton will want to change the game much because that would mean losing players (and eventually replacing the team), which is not conducive to making money.
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I’d say that as long as the Supporter Pack model continues to bring in enough income, it could stay that way. But if not, that’s when EHG / Krafton would have to implement a new economic model, may that be paid extensions or else… and could accelerate Krafton’s takeover as decision makers.
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The Loot Lizards get the money. They will explode with gold and item drops even more so in the future.
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Endless lizard charms for everyone!
EHG effectively no longer exists as we know it after the acquisition. All money goes to Krafton and if the remaining staff are lucky, they might still have a job.
That would be the case if they were a branch of Krafton, but Judd said that they’re a subsidiary so that’s not how that works.
The control of EHG & how easy it would/wouldn’t be for them to do stuff is different, certainly, but they absolutely do exist as a separate legal entity. Even if EHG’s new parent company was based in the US, they would be a separate legal entity.
Could they be converted into a branch? Absolutely, unless something in the sale contract prevented it & I assume there would probably be ways around that but not having seen the contract nor being an expert in US contract law I wouldn’t know.
Support EHG if you want the game to grow and become even greater.
As a subsidiary, EHG still benefits from the support and purchases of it’s clients.
You would still be supporting the same people who built Last Epoch and brought it this far. You would still be contributing to LE’s bright future.
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