Viper's Call selected but Serpent Strike still requires a Spear

I have Viper’s Call as a Swarmblade Form node, but I’m still required to have a spear equipped to use Serpent Strike.

It had been working properly before, but when I refunded passive points until Swarmblade Form was no longer unlocked, then spent the points to unlock it again, it could no longer be used. The icon for Serpent Strike darkens, so it’s definitely reading my input.

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The node that removes the requirement for a spear only applies while in Swarmblade form. If you want to use Serpent Strike outside of Swarmblade form you will still need to have the correct weapon equipped.

Nodes in 1 skill generally dont affect other skills unless explicitly stated, which this one does not.

“Your Serpent Strike tree now applies to Armblade Slashes, and it does not require a spear. This effect does not include the base additional poison chance or increased poison duration from Serpent Strike.”

You’re not using Serpent Strike itself while in Swarmblade Form, just making the Swarmblade’s auto-attack skill (Armblade Slash) benefit from Serpent Strike’s tree. Armblade Slash has no restrictions on what equipped weapon, I’m sitting in Swarmblade Form right now, with zero points in its tree, and using Arm-Slash despite having a staff equipped.

Hope that clarifies it

Yeah, i know how Serpent Strike and Swarmblade form with the Viper’s Call node work. How I read your initial post was that you if you had Viper’s Call allocated but were not in Swarmblade form then you would be able to use Serpent Strike without a spear (which is not the intended functionality), the bolded section:

I think that is the intended function though, because you literally cannot use Serpent Strike while in Swarmblade Form. And there’s no weapon restrictions on the Swarmblade skill itself. So what else could “and it does not require a spear”, refer to?

Then I’m not sure what you think the bug is.

The bug is that Serpent Strike does not come out as an attack when I have a staff equipped, or when Im dual wielding axes, or whatever else, despite having the Viper’s Call node that explicitly states Serpent Strike does not require a spear any more.

The Viper’s Call node does not affect Serpent Strike, per my previous comments. If you’re not in Swarmblade form, don’t have a polearm equipped it doesn’t matter whether you have the Viper’s Call node allocated in the Swarmblade skill tree.

Viper’s Call enables the Serpent Strike tree to affect Armblade Slashes, that’s all it does. It does not affect the Serpent Strike skill itself (this is not how LE works, skill tree nodes on one skill don’t affect other skill trees unless they explicitly say they do, which this node does not, though I agree that it’s not as clear as it could be).

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