Trying to farm Boss Uniques

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I’m trying to get the Logi’s Hunger (Logi's Hunger - Unique Bone Amulet - Amulet - Last Epoch Item Database )

I have maybe done 7 or 8 complete “Spirits of Fire Timeline” in lvl 100 timelines. And I haven’t seen any of this amulet. I understand perfectly the rng part of it. But it’s becoming really tedious. I need to farm a big lot of maps just to go to that boss.

Am I missing something, how can I go to that boss more rapidly ?

The whole timeline reseting after the boss tend to be really frustrating. And I’m tired of losing hours just to try “one time” rng boss.
It’s not the rng part of the game that bother me (it’s part of each h&s, obviously), it’s the whole mapping part to pop the timeline boss.

(and i’ve clean all lvl 100 timeline)

(sorry for my english)

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I agree. The amount you need to get to the bosses should be cut in half after you beat them the first time.

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Increase the corruption as high as you can, should help.
→ However, Logi’s Hunger is a “rare amulet”, so it remains very unlikely to get a good one with Legendary Potential.

In addition, a little less “maps” would be fine with me, maybe EHG could think about increasing the acquired Corruption?

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Totally agree with that solution.

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There are two major factors here:

  • How fast/often you can defeat the boss
  • How much %inc. Item Rarity do you have, when you kill the boss

2 of 4 Items of every MoF Boss are affected by %inc. Item Rarity (For Spirits Of Fire it’s the Amulet and the Unique Idol)
The 2H Mace and Relic are unaffected, since they are a 50/50 guaranteed drop (one of them will drop 100%)

With some cleaver planning you can give yourself an enormous if %inc. item rarity, without making the boss actually that much harder, but if your build can handle it it doesn’t even matter anyway.

Logi’s Hunger is not an empowered only drop, so you might consider farming him on Normal, if your build struggles on Empowered.

This is already almost the case essentially, not quite cut in half, but if you go far away from the center and develop a good echo web, you already need like 20-40% less echoes, compared to a fresh echo web, if you keep the echo web developed.
Since deeper echoes give way more timeline stability.

You can reduce the amount of echoes needed to complete by even more, up to 50-66% if you push corruption.

Depending on the timeline and what route/strategy you are going you needroughly 25-30 echoes, when you start fresh on Empowered Monolith.
By pushing Corruption you can get to 10-15 echoes needed to unlock the boss, while simultaneously increasing your chance to drop the more rare items (the chance is increased by %inc. item rarity)

Shortterm, doing a few Shades will only help you kill the boss once or twice very fast, but long terms killing shades does help tremendously.

It does slow your boss kills down a little bit, because the echo web alwas resets and you need to re-discover it, but in the long term having echoes that essentially give you more than double the amount of timeline stability is totally worth it, especially in conjunction with having more %inc. Item Rarity, which boosts you chances in getting the rare Boss Drops.

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That’s good to know. I thought the web reset after beating the timeline. I haven’t really farmed a single timeline boss to know that yet.

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Increasing corruption also is super tedious and takes ages. So this is not really a solution.

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Yes that is a good idea, especially cause your endgame progress isnt shared among all your chars so you would have to do it for every alt. Imagine that :face_vomiting:

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It kinda is, the web doesn’t reset so you can keep going with higher stability monos which will significantly reduce the amount of monos you do to hit the stability requirements.

The web only resets after killing the Shade, but then the corruption increase will increase the amount of stability you get from a mono.

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Also makes monoliths many times harder

So you might increase the drop rate but you increase the time it takes

I did 450+ Echoes in Spirits of Fire farming for Omnis and never got it, I did the boss over 21 times and got the Minion blessing twice and both were crap rolls. Logis hunger dropped 3 times

Eventually i stopped doing the boss, you can stack up 1800 stability, I used to get horrible modifiers and use the quests/boss to clear them

The bosses arent jokes at 300+ corruption. You get ‘deadly’ modifier on Spirits trio and dont constantly keep them damaged you will take extreme damage from those fireballs

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I’m also wanting to get this amulet. Do the blessings that increase specific drop rates help with boss uniques at all? In this case, it would be Vision of the Aurora, which increases amulet drop rate.

Another question for strategy: How best to increase corruption? Should I go really deep before fighting a shade, or just fight the first one I find that will increase corruption? Thanks!

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Honestly a more deterministic form of target farming would be welcome, but rng is the nature of these games, so …

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Those blessings only work on random drop normal, magic, rare and exalted items.

Not on unique or set items. (neither boss ones nor random drop ones)

Fighting deeper shades with more corruption gain is better, since shade always needs a certain depth to even spawn.

I usually try to get at least +12-15 corruption and see how deep I can get without any crazy detours or dead ends.

But if a 11 corruption shade is the only thing I can do without major de-tours I also will do that.

Sometimes you can get deep enough to even fight a 18+ shade without any de-tours.

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Thanks for the info and great strategy help! So I should get 12-15 corruption from close shades first, then go for a super deep run? I’m also curious what echoes you prioritize, and which ones you consider the lowest value? Do you look more at the negative modifiers, the item rewards, or the increased xp/rarity numbers?

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Generally alwas try to get the highest/deepest shade possible, but if there are a lot of dead end early, just to the next best one, before you do like 5+ echoes siesways, just to discover another branch that could potentially go deeper.

That heavily depends on the build, but generally all exalted echoes for items types i am intersted in(especially since 0.8.4).
I usually try to balance out defensive/offensive mods, because I hate if enemies are glass cannon or beefy af.
If you wanna farm the timeline boss on top of pushing corruption I also do 1st and 2nd quest echo asap, when they become available, so after doing the 2nd quest echo I can build up as many modifers as possible before doing the boss, same goes for shade.

They both drop their more rare items more frequently with high %inc item rarity.
if you don’t care for the Timelines Boss, ignroe quest echoes and just use them to get rid of bad modifers early.

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Thanks for those great tips! Another question: when trying to farm for boss uniques, what is your strategy for boss timing? I know that you can accumulate more stability than required and it will carry over. I don’t know how much carries over though, if u know please share. So, do you get a whole bunch of corruption first, then do rounds of bosses? Or do you just do a boss when you see you have a good stack of +% rarity mods?

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Just saw that post in the community game guide topic where that game dev says it works for uniques (so I’d assume sets as well). Or have things changed since then?

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The amulet drop rate blessing, for example, just causes more amulets to drop therefore since the % chance for a unique doesn’t change you’ll get more unique amulets overall (because more amulets are dropping).

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@AndrewTilley . I keep on trying to find a way to interpret it differently, but this section of the game guide could use a little tuning I think… What Heavy said is correct, and has been confirmed by the dev’s I’m pretty sure.

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@Llama8 Ok, cool, I figured as much. So, in effect you will see more uniques of that type from mobs. But does this affect boss drop uniques at all? Also, when you get an echo reward for like exalted rings, rare boots, unique item, unique staff, etc, do these drop-rate blessings work at all on them?