Because he can on a public forum. Freedom of speech and what not. Look at the game objectively and tell me that there are no glaring issues that drive the game to the brink of death rather fast. I don’t say it’s dead yet and it would be a shame but I get people who say it’s dead because with the average player numbers noone can sustain the server costs or dev costs.
Attention hungry, maybe? I don’t know. It seems to be a part of todays new gaming culture to claim games dead because their favorite influencer has not posted about the game for a a week or two. Maybe it didn’t show up in the TikTok feed today. It’s not on page one when you browse Twitch either, so you better uninstall. Have to play what everyone else play, follow the flock of sheep. Maybe he comes from Diablo 3/4 where every drop is a legendary. Instant gratification for everyone!
No, its because its a live service game.
Grimdawn can shutter support for the game, and the game will continue to be playable for years to come.
You can go play torchlight 1 right now!
if PoE or LE shutdown, they are gone forever. Because they are live service. While LE has an offline client, im not sure that you will be allowed to access it forever as their main focus is in live service.
live service lives and breathes by its ebb and flow of players.
Is it overly dramatic to say its dead? yes. is the game suffering right now? for sure. They have messed up their live service pipeline. that is a fact.
We need to be more objective then “game is dead” and “game is fine and has 0 problems the devs are pog”
Once April hits posts like these will be forgotten. Long live LE
Not true
Thats why we have pure Offline mode
Game not dead, sleeping rn. It has problems and the devs are pog
While we are hard at work on creating content and addressing player feedback we of course do see our concurrent player numbers down, but you will find in the near future that the game is absolutely far from dead. There is a very bright future for Last Epoch and LE players.
We’re working diligently and faster than ever. If you look at our patch notes for major patch releases you’ll see that they’re very extensive. 1.2, or Season 2, will be no different, and very significant.
We look forward to seeing you in game!
I agree completely, but IMO there are two main reasons why that’s not going to happen:
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The internet is becoming more and more polarized. The middle ground (IMO, more rational) points of views are being drowned by loud extremists who push those who don’t agree with them away and thus create echo chambers
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Who’s on this forum right now? It’s basically the most ardent fans, who are still playing the game despite the content drought, and the occasional hater who appears to stir trouble. Both those groups only do exactly the kind of post you described.
Hi, nice to hear that work is going on, but please
Post patch notes, community are starving for news, buzzing in threads like this, lurking in steamDB to find something about 1.1.7.8 etc
Instead of reading official info about progress on unity and json dev tools and good things like switched on altars (portal, spinning beam, …) and visuals
They prefer to throw informations in the noisy void of Discord, where you can’t search, effectively categorize or archive anything.
Because of reasons.
I think it’s a communication strategy called “Get fudged, you dumb forumers.”
I’m a little late to the party, but just came back to play a little bit of LE after a bit of a break and thought I’d check out the forums while i download. Sounds like another angry nerd looking for attention online. If you’re not enjoying yourself then go try something else. Plenty of other games for you out there. No need to get on the forums and tell the world how upset you are that Eleventh Hour Games didn’t customize the game to your personal preferences. I play two cycles. went and tried something else for a bit when a new game came out. Now I’m installing LE again cause I wanted to play it. Maybe go take a break for a bit, clear the angry sand out of the places it shouldn’t be and if you see a patch down the road that seems to your liking or at least and improvement to what you personally expect from a game, then come back and give it another go. I took a break for a bit so I can’t comment on the current state of the game, but I don’t feel the need to come on here and rant about a game the just released not long ago that actually had probably the most complete game that I’ve seen in the ARPG genre. I’m a huge Blizzard fan. Sorry “WAS” a huge Blizzard fan since I started out in ARPG’s with Diablo 1 and loved the franchise and yet an established developer like them with a huge budget and much more manpower flopped hard with Diablo 4. It’s Season 7 and they still don’t have their crap together. It’s a fairly new game give them a change to improve. Honestly and it’s my own opinion as you are entitled to yours. I think LE has the best crafting system of any ARPG out there. Yes, PoE 1 has a lot more to it, but not everyone can be a sweat no lifer and have the time to learn all those systems. I find LE has a very good balance. And we also didn’t have to play AAA price for it like people did for Diablo 4 which wasn’t even finished and then charged another whopper for the Expansion (The rest of the game that should been included with the launch). So I’m really just not understanding the reason/need for your sheer hate rant! For what I paid I already feel that I got much more for my money than Diablo 4. Look man, I’m not wanting to start a 15 page reply debate or argument. I’m just saying, NO COMPANY is able to please everyone, just give them a change. I hope they can turn it around and make this game great cause I really enjoyed myself during the time I put in. Anyway, no hard feelings bro, I’m just busting balls with some of my comments. In the end it’s just a game, no sense in stressing about it like that, it’s not worth your health! Anyway I hope Eleventh Hour Games can turn things around and with that provide some content that appeals to your liking. Keep at it Eleventh Hour Games, the game base is great. just needs a good polish! In case you were wonder I’m much beyond the 200 hour playtime. I put in almost 1800 hours during the first two cycles.
I come back to this game every now and then… kind of miss it, but then the endgame comes and I get a bit burnt out. I hope they improve the monolith system.
Low-tier rage bait post, OP please grow up
I mean, he isn’t wrong. The game went from 260k to 1.5k peak. Those numbers + people on the forums acting like elitists whenever you provide feedback = game deserted. I feel pissed to have given this much money to the devs when nothing has changed besides minor bug fixes, but the game is still overtuned/hasn’t changed much in the endgame for nearly a year.
I pretty much only use steam to play this game and other ‘must-play’ games, but I haven’t loaded steam in nearly a year because there is no urge, as there are much better ARPGs out there that actually make changes based off of player feedback, and quick.
Little story: you saw my post above there? I missed this game, and came back and fired up my warlock (level 85 in empowered monos… 100 corruption, nothing fancy), and I have 1-1.5k HP + much much more ward, and capped resistances and nearly capped crit avoidance and I proceeded to get off-screen killed by one of those ‘Ospirix Lightmage’ meteors, and then… uninstalled immediately after that… but hey feel free to flame. There aren’t many other alternatives to play right now, right… right? <cough cough D2-D4, PoE1-2, etc.>
Edit: See you guys in another 6 months… maybe.
That’s a you problem .
Looking at all the batches you have you backed the game very early on and since then a lot changed. Sure in the last moths nothing much happened but at least the devs finaly got that they need to have a solid foundation to build a game on and stopped doing minor bandaid fixes.
I get it you are pissed off as many other people but at least half of your problems have been produced by yourself. Sure I’m with you on the topic that some people overpraise and defend the game like a hill to die on and a lot of valueable feedback seems like it was dismissed because it was given by whoever. From the outside this looks a bit like an echochamber problem but it could simply be they follow their own philosophy. Whatever if you buy something that turns out to be possible crap and you get crap you invested your money in… crap.
I still follow the forums as I thought it was a pretty great game and I am interested in if anything should change. The delay to April for the next update is the writing on the wall. I think they’re done and just haven’t gotten around to telling us yet. I saw something similar with DoW III when that came out, but I could be wrong.
I don’t think I can say anything others haven’t said better. It’s just the end game. I read here someone said you get about 90% of your gear really quick, and the last 10% is just effed in an RNG hell I’ve never experienced before.
Anyway, I believe it’s about as simple as that. For what it’s worth, it’s really fun up until that point. I really enjoyed the gameplay up until that point.
Welcome to arpgs. I don’t disagree with you too much, but.
I am confused. Did you play or experience it by yourself or you just repeating what somebody else said/thinks?
Yes in ARPG’s the major part of your gear/character progression is very fast, but it slows down towards the end.
BUT
These last few % are what keeps you playing the game for an extended period of time, because you want to refine your character, but also it is not needed for any major progression, because, when you reached that point you should be able to do all content already.
Also one thing, that I noted, especially In LE is, that people always shoot for the stars and think that only BiS gear is worth chasing. Only the perfect T7 exalted affix legendary slam is “good”.
While in reality it is incredibly easy to get way easier and faster upgrades, that might not be BiS, but are still progress.
You really should experience this yourself and not just repeat what other people have said.
Then you clearly havn’t followed the game enough and don’t know EHG.
They were pretty transparent and just because it takes more time doesn’t mean they are done. Quiet the opposite. Because they really want to turn all the critique into something to improve the game.
There is a reason why this takes longer and they communicated it.
They are cooking
Will it be enough to redeem all the other shortcomings in just one patch? Maybe not but I am still very positive about the game, because regardless of a few hiccups along the way, EHG always underpromised and overdelivered back in the day.
Only the few latest major patches were a little bit of a bummer. I still think these were growing pains from their initial success.
Give the game some more time and it will be up there.
Morning. I did experience it all myself, but I’ve already posted this stuff months ago. I love me some ARPGs, I just don’t like how LE does the end game. I like the more traditional loot grind of the item just being very very rare, but when it drops, it’s yours. LEs method of not only finding an item, but one with enough slots, then not only purples, but purples with the right T7 affixes, then Julra dungeon, then slams, and that’s only a chance of success is just too much RNG.
After failing the slams a few times I was done. Getting the item you want to have useless affixes come over is pretty disheartening. We’ll see what develops. The gameplay is silky smooth and I enjoy it. There’s just nothing left for me at the moment.
Which is 100% true and I fully agree so far.
The difference is the how it’s done to have that happen.
D2 for example is a great game as anything can drop anytime during end-game, and you gradually work yourself up with value of the runes as well.
Torchlight Infinite is the same, you gradually work yourself up after you got the baseline item, to optimize it then.
PoE, you also gradually work yourself up, and collect currency worst case to make it happen to optimize your build.
But now comes LE along where that’s mostly non-existent. Because for the aforementioned thing to happen there need to be 2 situations available:
1.) You need enough overall drops to happen to have supply available
2.) You need low enough currency/crafting items to drop to make them valuable enough.
That’s simply not the case in LE currently as we have a starvation for base drops. And it makes also sense as to why, which is what I’m talking about repeatedly: T5 to T6 is massive… T6 to T7 is ridiculously high in power progression. So obviously those need to be more scrace, which leads to a scarcity issue and it makes it feel like 95% of players in end-game need absolutely nothing besides nearly top-tier items. Nothing else seems to have value. No base uniques with 2-3 legendary potential, the majority of T6 affixes on items is worthless (5k or less), T7 in comparison costs for the base item often millions upon millions.
That’s a problem, the cliff between one step and the next is simply too severe, it’s like having a baseline build in poE and suddenly going for a chase item like a Headhunter or similar. You need to put excessive effort into the game (or have massive luck) to make it happen, and before that? Barely yellow-map gear it feels like.
If it is 100% this way or not… it feels like it at least.