Damage dealt to mana doesn’t apply to rage, though.
I do have that affix on the Seed helmet, but it never does anything in Spriggan Form. Neither of the mana affixes (like the gloves’ 250% of mana spent deals damage to you) do anything.
That means that we do get transformed back to human with some health at least, even if it’s just 1, at which point the mana affixes kick in. Probably more, since I survived as human.
Really? I assumed the affix on the gloves didnt apply, but Seed of Ekkdrasil did apply to it. Its one of the reasons I avoided Seed of Ekkdrasil in the first place, though in fairness they couldve changed it anytime between early 1.1 to now.
Test without Seed anyway, because im 100% sure Primalist Transformations dont have a second health pool, if you die in Spriggan Form, you die fullstop. Its only Reaper Form that has a second health pool because of its interactions with Health as its version of Rage.
Maybe theres a passive tree node or item that gives you a second health pool during Spriggan Form, but im pretty sure it is just Seed of Ekkdrasil.
It could also be that Seed is glitched and is dealing damage to your rage when it shouldnt be in some random cases.
Yeah, I’m sure of that. I’ve had plenty of hits that left me with very little life and yet rage didn’t change at all. It never does, except from casts or decay.
I’ll test this easily at some point. I just ned to remove the chest and shield and then let some low mobs chip at my health. And I can test it with both helmet and without.
Yeah if its not Seed, idk what is causing it. Because ive been playing and testing this Spriggan Form reflect build since 1.1, and without fail, I have never transformed back into a human, when I die in Spriggan Form I die fullstop, so I am 100% its not a case of Spriggan Form giving you two health pools.
Is your ign “DJSamhein”? I can look over your build to see if I can spot something other than Seed that causes this.
I play offline now, but this is my current build:
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QWkJDM2Q
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Yeah Seed of Ekkdrasil is quite literally the only possible thing I can think of and see that is causing you to de-transform.
I also searched to see if “damage dealt to mana before health” applied to rage, and the only thing I could find was the stupid AI thing saying that it would deal damage to rage. While that does support my theory, take it with a big pinch of salt.
It could be that for smaller hits, your rage generation is making it hard to see Seed applying to rage. But apart from that, I could not tell you why it is de-transforming you lol
Well, just tested it and both with the helmet and without it I immediately die without transforming,
So I don’t know what is causing me to very occasionally survive in human form.
Nor is it a new thing. Even at launch when playing totem spriggan, I remember being transformed into human by the Emperor of Corpses explosion.
It’s not something I see often, but it did happen more than once. So I don’t know what combination is required for this to happen and if it’s some outlier case still “within the rules” or if it’s a bug.
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