The AFK timer is currently too strict

Bringing this back as the last post on it was closed. This is not really friendly to people that are not able to just sit and play for hours. I personally am a dad and need to step away for 10-20 minutes maybe to make lunch or to break them up. During the campaign this was not such an issue due to the WP, however the monoliths are a different story. #notdadfriendly

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The thing is: If you walk away from the PC, why do you have to stay in the game?

Personally, I would almost call it a “fairness system”. The setting that the character is disconnected from the server after x minutes afk is because EHG has taken precautions to reduce server load and ideally prevent a queue to the game server, or at least make the queue move since your disconnection would allow someone from the queue to log in.
So without this setting, the server could be filled with AFK players, which could then lead to a queue that hardly moves because you would have to wait for players to quit the game or be kicked from the server due to increased connection problems, as the game server could become overloaded.

It’s not a friendly setting for people who spontaneously leave the PC, but it’s friendly for people who want to play the game, which makes a lot of sense in my world.

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just increase the afk timer to 30-60 minutes

How about this instead; you’ll just wait about a month or two, when player numbers are likely to be consistently low enough to turn off the afk timer, which EHG has done in the past. If 30-60 minutes in a queue wouldn’t bother you, then 30-60 days certainly won’t bother you either.

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I think you’re mixing things up. You’re talking about queues to enter the game. He’s talking about being idle while inside the game before being disconnected for inactivity.
Also, EHG never turned off the queues, it just doesn’t get used with smaller traffic.
And EHG never ever turned off the inactivity timer.

I’m not mixing things up here. I’m talking about the consequences. If people want to be afk for 30-60 minutes, then it will also take 30-60 minutes in the next queue before anything happens.
Okay, then there must have been a bug a few months ago that allowed me to stand around afk for over 30 minutes without getting logged out. Ups, i guess.

This isn’t true. Queues have nothing to do with how many people are in the game. Otherwise you’d have a cap on possible people in the game, which doesn’t happen.
Queues are only related to the amount of people trying to get in at the same time.

If anything, letting people AFK for longer will only alleviate this, since they are always in the same server and they don’t need to enter the game again.

I would not have an issue with the AFK timer being 30 mins (it is 16 mins right now) and would not want more than that. I think it is unfair for those that have life and things to do, like kids, feed animals, take a bio. My thing again is if I am just stepping away to even answer the door for door dash and have a small conversation and run to the restroom I should not be worried about being kicked out. This issue is more bothersome due to what I believe to be optimization issues and this game is the only game I have that takes a while to load up and into the character, or even zones. I also agree that this is unrelated to a queue as I have never had to queue getting in outside of day 1.

If I meant the login server, then I would have said that.

I am not sure what you are referencing then as I do not know of any other queue for any game unless it has some form of group up feature. Me sitting in a map of my own instance has no impact on other players. Please enlighten us on what other queue you are referring to and your source for how it is implemented in Last Epoch?

Maybe, just maybe, because there is a “too strict” afk timer preventing people from staying logged in all day, generating queues when the server is overloaded?

I don’t buy these entitled posts saying something like this… Yeah, you got a life, you got a family, you got a job. So what? Most of us do…
It’s kinda disrespectul to everyone else implying we are all vagabonds if we don’t agree with your premise.

15 min afk timer is completely fine, especially if the company is not so big. 15 minutes should be more than enough for anyone to take a break… If they need more time than that, they should probably just log out and come back another time.

What do you even lose when you get disconnected after being afk for 15+ minutes? Nothing… There’s no queues to log back in, maybe 30s in the loadscreen… So why does it have to be a problem?
Unless you want to pause in the middle of an echo… but then you would still have a problem, because a random mob can just walk over and kill you in the mean time, leading to the same outcome as if you had been dc’d and logged back in town.

And if you really don’t have much time to play, and have to keep getting away from the PC constantly, maybe true-offline mode is what you need. There you can pause freely, and will never be disconnected.

No, this wouldn’t happen. Quite the opposite really. Queues are only for people trying to get into the server at the same time. It’s so servers can handle the flow. It’s a throttle on traffic.

Someone sitting inside doing nothing doesn’t actually affect the queue. Someone being booted for AFK will, because they then have to get back in.

However, sitting on the game without getting booted can simply lead to your server instance not being disposed of (server instances are often recycled and new ones opened). That wouldn’t be good for EHG, because it would increase server costs, but it wouldn’t affect queues anyway.

You can pause in fake offline as well.

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Yeah, I know nothing about these stuff… I just assumed.

What about dc? Is there an afk timer there?

No, it works like the regular offline mode. You can pause and you can leave it there for hours as well, if you want.

Ok, first you may want to reflect on yourself as you took this a little personal. I have younger siblings who can stay online and do not get up because they are single and do not really care to do much else. While you may not fit this bill it does that does not imply that nobody does. In fact I was thinking of streamers who actually play as part of their lives so they are able to sit and play for extended times.
Second, 2 parts when you purchase a product you are entitled to some expectations. Next, this is a feedback and suggestion forum it is not entitlement to ask. I did not post this in customer service or bugs indicating this is and expectation. So very aggressive to imply any of this was entitled, unless you think having a job and family are entitlements then again you should reflect.

Third, again I personally have a life and it is not predictable so if I know I needed 30 mins I would logout and back in. However, as for most people life is not that predictable glad yours is.

Forth, during the campaign which I am no longer in you lose progression of the zone you are in. I mention that I am no longer in it to point out my feedback again was not personal to me but again something helpful for the community (I guess thats why they have a vote button). As end game the current status of the game does not l store you last location so I have to port from weaver to the timeline and then into a map which again can take 2-5 mins depending on the load of the map.

Lastly, thank you for try but this is a feedback/suggestion for for the game and not other players. So if you do not have postive or constructive feed back move along traveler.

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I guess you’re not aware than feedback can and should be discussed upon.
Because even you might be wrong and your perceivance might not hold true.

Well, then that’s on you… Because not a single time you mentioned streamers prior to my reply…
Common regular people are discussing the feedback you brought, but you insist in saying “you have a family”… that’s entitlement, because all of us do, same with everything else you said were your reasons.

But I get you’re not really interested in this. You just want the company to bow to your needs, regardless of what everyone else thinks.

Best of luck out there. o/

Again laughable as you are making so many assumptions and I will assume you know what happens when you make assumptions. Very narcasitic behavior to say I am assuming anything when that is all you have done; again I reiterate you should self reflect.

As to the point of discussion that is true and I welcome discussions but you did not discuss the topic you chose to discuss my comments and how they made you feel.

As to the “Well, that is on you…” Not really because you were the one to assume what I meant and I left it out on purpose as to not call out any one type of person(s). So I am sorry that is on you and your assumptions.

Again another assumption, you do not know if everyone has family that requires daily care. I am sure there are many who isolate and play this game for comfort and interaction.

And yet again another assumption which you are full of and I will say it is very entertain watching you try hard. I will continue to play as I have since beta (I see you do not have any badges) wether they take my suggestion or not. Again it was just a suggestion to be helpful to the community and them (as the title states I am not first and sure will not be the last to make it) <3