[Suggestion] Generic infinite node on Skill tree

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In LE, unlike in PoE (especially PoE2), taking +skills isn’t the be all end all. In many cases, like we’ve explained, you’re better off not them and using another affix instead.

Yes, wraiths have more nodes that will become less useful if you build them one way rather than another. That is because wraiths actually give you lots of options in how to construct your skill. Skeletons don’t.
So the fault isn’t in wraiths. It’s in skeletons. There’s a reason why you have so many wraith based builds and very very little skeleton (other than skeleton mage, which is another skill) ones.

The skill trees are made in a way that you can build around them and +skills will benefit them a lot. But if it’s not your main skill, then +skills usually don’t.
As I said, wraithlord or flame turrets both use lots of +skills for summon wraith. They’re not wasted.

But your build isn’t created around wraiths, so +skills will get less benefit the more you have. You’re better off with another affix instead.

And, to go back to the OP, all of your examples give you more damage. Not much, but some. Which is a lot different from reducing your damage or ruining your build.

As for your wraiths, if you have +10, you could still get a lot of decent or even good nodes:
-Putrid wraiths at the bottom seems like an immediate win on a poison build.
-If you “pay the tax” following the necrotic nodes, you get access to more movement speed and +wraiths.
-You might not care about crit, but if you go to the left and take the higher crit chance, it will also heal them on crit, so it will help with their survivability.
-And lastly, as pointed before, on the top you can summon more than one at once, which can be very handy when your party gets wiped by an AoE.

So you still have options. You just don’t like them as much.
Which, again, is a clear sign that, for your build, you’d be better off with another affix.

Finally, I’ll just leave you with an example of a build that has +8 to wraith and could still use more:
https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/keepers-wraithlord-necromancer

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Your point was “with the current way I’ve built Wraiths, there’s not many more significantly impactful or synergistic nodes remaining that would benefit from +Skills where my Skeleton’s tree does.”

and my counter point was:

“If I built my Skeletons to only be Skeleton Archers, then every single node that relies on Rogue or Warrior Skeletons is completely worthless with 0 synergistic effects, leaving me with less options for +Skills to be worth it.”

Does that make Skeletons a bad skill tree that needs dump skills? No, it means that for my Skeleton Archers build, I don’t need any more +Skills for Skeletons, where your general Skeletons build can take advantage of +15, I might only take advantage of +3 or 4.

Wraith is the same way. Your build limits how useful some of the nodes are for your specific build, but none are harmful or detrimental and bulding differently could let you take advantage of +15 Skills instead of barely finding uses for +3

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I don’t think that’s a problem with the Skeleton tree, this issue is less noticeable in the other skills. Wraith was just my example because it’s the most limited one of my skills, and the others work “fine.”

Either you guys aren’t understanding my point, or I’m not understanding yours. Either way, I’ve already explained my point about the tree in detail as a suggestion.

I still agree with FOLK that this could be a problem of reworking or even just reorganizing the tree.

Well, I’m tired. There’s no point in going further, I’ll just be repeating myself.

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But man, look at the Skeleton tree, the archers/rogue/warrior specific node are in the edge of the tree, the midle is free for everyone.

But anyway

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Sure, the tree could possibly be improved. It possibly will next season when they take a look at Lich and necro (hopefully). But the solution can’t be to just make it so +skills are mandatory.

It’s fine that there are cases where stacking +skills doesn’t always give you the best outcome. In fact, it should be the norm. It should have diminishing returns, where each +skill you have will get you a little less than the previous one.

+skills is just like any other affix. If you focus solely on stacking that one and ignore the rest, you will get less out of it. If you simply stack “increased DoT” on every single piece of gear you can, it will have less and less effect to the point where you’re better off using other affixes instead.

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Right, just like Wraith.

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The midle isn’t for everyone…