Should Game Resolution be limited in this game?

Yes, it should all be limited to 640x320. If it was good enough for D2 it’s good enough for LE.

Also, what’s with the posts that are just links to videos? Is typing not a thing for the yoof?

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TLDR: No…

What’s the point really? Is it really that much of an advantage in a game where there is no real reward for running Arena other than a measurement of the virtual phallus?

Honestly… the guys/gals/thems/theys that are competing for the top of the leaderboards have to employ a lot of skill in building a character, being excellent (or at least very good) at playing it and surviving boredom into the hundreds of levels…

Is seeing a spawn point really that much of a deal when the other things a player has to master for high arena levels are far more important?

Sure, maybe a ranged char might have an advantage of more legroom to work with but realistically why bother? By the time you get to top level arenas boredom is the main enemy.

written from the perspective of someone who has zero interest in Arena type modes in any game…and that having a bigger resolution in a PVE game doesnt really make that much difference in normal play as there is no real competition against others…

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I find that clipping data from players expressing data, is far easier than typing data out, as it’s displayed as a visual representation, that is easier to see than making lengthy posts, using just words, as the content expressed by other people playing the game in real time shows a clearer view of data, and points :slight_smile: it’s also most helpful for bug reports too, if you can capture the data in real time.

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Trust me, I have played several other games competitively, where seeing 100% or more game view, gives far more advantage, then not having it. This may not affect the game now, specially with the rampant notepad mains/cheaters ruining the current ladders, but it will be a much more relevant issue for devs to tackle, when they start incorporating online multiplayer, pvp, and different competitive game modes/ changes to arena rewards, and such.

Out of interest… Can you name one game (preferably a high profile one) that restricts the resolution of the players screen to prevent abuse?

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I think there’s a difference between being able to see a specific section of the world at a higher res & being able to see a larger section of the world at said higher res. The former doesn’t give you any competitive advantage while the latter (which is what we have in LE) does.

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I get it…

I just cant recall any game actually doing that… Even some of the recent FPS games like Fortnite etc all have janky resolution changes (even some stretched) that are supposed to give the player a better advantage by adjusting either the visual area that the player sees (i.e. gives them more heads up) or modifies the hit box to give the player an advantage… most dont make any difference but people try anyway…

As far as I can recall I dont think any game actually implemented a resolution/screen space restriction in-game to combat abuse specifically… From what I understand competitive play was simply governed by rules of engagement that required the player not to change their resolution to benefit… I dont think the game explicitly enforced it…

I am just trying to see how other games have addressed this issue to understand how much of a problem this really is… Personally I dont think it is - hence trying to understand the other perspective…

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Well, in one major game I have been playing since 2005, called subspace continuum, the mods, and admin incorporated a screen resolution cap, there’s about 500 active players during leagues, and 50 to 100 very die hard competitive players, and it was voted on years ago, that having a higher resolution gives a clear advantage for seeing map sizes, and players, giving a significant reaction type boost. A game where in leagues, we are playing for thousands of dollars in some league tournaments.

So your reasoning is then based on competitive league & tournament play where game winners are financially compensated. In this case - sure, that makes sense to ensure an even playing field - along with playing tournaments on the same system performance with the same pings on the same server etc… All totally sensible…

I understand your perspective, but for me its the nature of an arpg that doesnt really lend itself to having to worry about someone having an advantage over someone else… sure if LE eventually has a closed league tournament for real world money (most of those are unfair anyway - try competing with 100ms ping vs someone with 5ms)… but generally in normal everyday play - who cares if someone gets to the top of the arena ladder because they have an ultrawide monitor?

As long as somone is not actively cheating by editing the game files etc then to me having a bigger resolution is no different than someone having a faster more powerful gaming computer or a 1gb fibre connection with 5ms pings - how would you restrict that to make it fair?

Suppose its an interesting topic for discussion… but until we know exactly what LE is going to end up doing for competitive play, its a bit of a moot point.

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Would rather see a solution that doesn’t restrict resolution choices while also not giving a larger visual representation of the world to the higher resolutions. I’m very much against having an advantage like that, but I also think restricting resolution to 1080p and lower is a non starter.

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People are paying money for bigger screens and hardware that can run games at higher resolution.

It looks better and is more immersive.

Since beginning of the year I’m playing in an Ultrawide screen (32:9 aspect ratio). This is absolutely stunning. Yes, I’d have a huge advantage because i see double the amount a ā€œnormalā€ player does.

But I’d complain heavily if EHG is taking countermeasures against this ā€œadvantageā€. I paid money for this enjoyment.

People bring their own hardware. What do you wanna do if somebody with a potato needs to play 800x600 to have a smooth experience. Should everybody suffer to make playing the game equally bad?

  • Limit framerate
  • Limit aspect ratio
  • Limit resolution
  • Limit mouse dpi

Where do you draw the line?

Why not ship everybody a standard computer with the exact same hardware setup?

When I play table tennis and have a material advantage of my racket compared to my oponent, that has a cheap rubber, am I supposed to change my racket? No.

You have better hardware? You have an advantage. That’s life.

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Only if it is the developers’ wish. If they don’t want you to have an advantage and benefit your large screen, they won’t permit you to do so. And therefore we may think that, because currently you can, they are OK with it

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