Hello there,
MBJ89 here.
I want to ask Rip blood users, cause I am new to this skill.
How healing effectiveness works with that skill?
Cause I have 100% more healing effectiveness from intelligence and it doesnt affect heal from blood orbs? Is it intentional? If so, why it is in skill description when it doesnt increase health gained from orbs?
I want to make converting health to ward. Passive description says that healing effectiveness doesnt affect ward - I am ok with that. But should healing effectiveness increase health gained = 50% of it as additional ward?
Another thing - there is passive that I am slowly going to take that increases healing per point of intelligence. Anyone knows if it ll increase ward gained?
Thank you for your helpđ
So Rip Bloodâs Blood Orbs do have a fixed amount of Health (10 Baseline).
The Healing effectiveness does not directly affect the ward, but indirectly.
Since you gain Ward equal to 50% of what the Blood Orb would have granted you in health.
So healing effectiveness (and therefore Int) will affect how much Ward you gain.
Everything in Rip Bloodâs Tree that somehow affects how much Health a Blood Orb gives also affects how much ward you gain.
Also one more thing without spoiling too much: There is a Unique that affects how much Health the Blood Orbs grant, this would also affect the ward gained from them.
Heavy, are you sure about that?
Right now I have 10 health baseline + 16 from 4/5 points from nodes on Rip Blood tree.
So I should get 13 ward, which is correct - checked it yesterday on dummy.
I have 100% more healing effectiveness from inteligence and still I only get 13 ward from blood orbs.
I am a little confused 
It is no real healing spell, it is more like âhealth on hitâ. The healing tag is missing.
I just did the test and you are correct healing effectiveness does not impact the Ward gained from the blood orbs, however every other point that somewhat modifies the health granted by the skill tree does modify the ward gained.
The âHematologyâ Node, that gives you 5% more health per point of int however does affect ward gained
There is no âhealingâ tag in Last Epoch.
Also Rip Blood does have inherent healing effectiveness scaled by int, thatâs how the skill works.
This whole discussion si just about converting Rip Bloodâs Blood Orb Health to Ward.
Greatâ:smiling_face_with_three_hearts: thank you guys!
The game says it should be affected by healing effectiveness, if itâs not, thatâs a bug.
No, it does clearly state itâs not affected by healing effectivenss, on the Arcane Fortress" advanced tooltip.
That is why it is missing. 
Your whole previous comment was just false, health on hit is something entirely different and not what the spell does. And you said âThe healing tag is missingâ, which sounded like it âshould haveâ the healing tag, but there is no healing tag.
You should phrase your statements better 
Ah, I was referring to the base skill. 
Iâll just slink off into the shadowsâŚ
Thatâs not what this discussion is about^^
I rather think that the basis would be something like âhealth on hitâ and that through the int the âhealing effectivenessâ would increase and - admittedly - the game as a whole lacks such a tag.
Either way, if healing effectiveness does not work it is not really compatible with the increases through intelligence and as Llama already means rather a bug.
Besides, you know very well that I use a translator quite often. We can talk sometime in âpointed Germanâ.
Healing effectiveness only does not work for the ward conversion, which the tooltip clearly stated, I thought it worked, but it was the Hematology Node that was working, not the base healing effectiveness
I want a âhealing effectivity tagâ! 
â Moreover, first in this case the healing effectivity should be calculated FIRST and THEN the Ward conversion. Nudges EHG
Is now clarified.
Exactly, healing effectiveness from intelligence (when you press alt on skill = 4% per point of int) should increase health gained from orbs and then half of thia extra health comes as additional ward.
Some dev should say is it a bug or nopeđ
Yeah, as I said above, I wasnât really paying attention⌠The node that converts to ward clearly says that it doesnât benefit from any healing effectiveness (though the normal blood orbs are more of a life on hit mechanic which wouldnât normally benefit from healing effectiveness but do for Rip Blood 'cause the game says it does).
Iâm not a dev, but nope to the italicised bit due to the alt-text on the ward conversion node.
This next bit is going to be difficult to get out so I might need a bit of a run up.
@heavy was ⌠correct.
Well, to sum up.
Stack int for hematology node to increase wardđ
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