I do not care about cycle exclusive content, rhey can add whatever exclusive content to seasons, BUT do not Disable already existing content, e.g
leaderboards, in non season.
I donât think you understand how Cycles work. Or seasons. Or Action RPGs. Youâre right though, deleting your character and progress would suck. Unless youâre into hardcore playthroughs
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Not really. What you bought is access to the game/service, that is all. The game is not yours even if you purchase 10,000 copies and EHG can remove your access to the game (ban) 
Half (more than that) of the player base will leave no matter what. That always happens even to the best games ever made. What is important is how many players return for the new cycle/patch/expansion.
Also, youâre reading skills are severely lacking. As many said, in Last Epoch, at least for now, all the content is released on both Cycle and Legacy servers at the same time. That might change after some time but I think you are looking for games with persistent world AKA MMORPGs (WoW, FFXIV, Lost Ark, âŚ)
I am happy that the ARPGs have cycles/seasons with reset. I have played MMORPGs for 20 years and now when I am over 30s I no longer want to be in constant fear or missing out because I have to keep up with all the players in order to raid, etcâŚ
Why would you want to use your fully built and leveled char to go through the campaign and monoliths again?
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Even in mmorpgs like WoW theres a reset so to speak. Every expansion your gear is suddenly no good and you are pretty much farming again to replace it with the newer better gear.
You bought a license to use it.
PoE seems to be doing ok.
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I tought this game is about respect for community from devs. now you told me that if the game is ok then community does not matterâŚ
what is the problem if non-season has also leaderboards? seriously, I do not get it. i respect players that want to play seasons, I respect players that do not care about leaderboards, but what do you guys have against players that want to play non-season and have leaderboards? what is your problem here, just pure hate?
devs will not force players that want to play non-season to actually play season because only there are leaderboardsâŚ
What he meant is that the vast majority of players will prefer seasonal content. As shown by the fact that the vast majority of PoE players are season players.
If you make season-exclusive content (even if it gets added later to non-season) then some players might leave. But if you donât make season-exclusive content a LOT of players WILL leave.
Not to mention that the cycle model is what keeps a game alive, always coming up with new stuff to add to the game. Without it, you get a lot less stuff added, because thereâs no 3-4 month pressure to come up with new stuff.
Nope, never said the community didnât matter. Some of the players would leave but others would join, the community would be different not necessarily worse.
There can be seasonal exclusive content, no problem. but what that content has to do with leaderboards in non-season? seasonal content must be content, not making an already existing feature as seasonal âcontentâ.
Cycle/seasons jeep game alive, this is half truth. I played in Diablo 3 for years non-season and lot of players also. you have what to do in non-season also for years in games like this, not to mention LE is more complex than others. e.g. leveling to 100 all 15 classesâŚ
again, let be OK for those who want to play acycle, BUT let be OK also for thosr who want to. play non-season.
Honestly I canât beleive I have this problem in this game, non-season wothout leaderboards, why? just why?
No one is against a legacy-ladder. Itâs just not a priority.
Itâs also not what this thread is about or what you were complaining about.
No one ever said that there werenât players in legacy/standard/eternal. Just that they are a minority. Much like LE offline players. They exist, theyâre just a minority. There isnât a leaderboard for them either.
As has been answered to you before, this isnât a problem youâre having with this game. Itâs a problem youâre having with every single ARPG that isnât D3/Undecember/maybe D4(?).
Having a non-season leaderboard isnât the norm, itâs the exception. Because not many players care about leaderboards and even less about non-season ones.
It might happen in the future. Itâs just not a priority. So chill. If it really bothers you that much, play something else until they implement it.
come on man, you know what will be the effort for devs to add leaderboards for Legacy right? is something like disabling an compiler switch, e.g. 1 hour work for 1 dev and another few hours letâs say for integratio, testingâŚ
Tell me you donât know about programming without telling me you donât know about programming.
EDIT: Besides, there are a LOT of those â1hâ (not really 1h ever) fixes to be made to the game which, guess what, are also a higher priority.
Currently the leaderboards in non-season are just disabled, are there but disabled in game.
and, look in the official website, select Legacy at Cycle, the leaderboards are there, you see:
https://lastepoch.com/ladder
What the site shows as legacy ladder is what the game shows as beta. The site simply hasnât been updated yet. So no.
but the feature is there, just need to be enabled. not enabling it for Legacy is just hate for a portion of player base.
The first few cycles will have no content difference between legacy and cycle
And after the first cycles too. There will be no difference. Browse Mikeâs past videos
I will point out, again, that you donât know about programming. Thereâs more to it than copy/paste.
Devs are aware, at this point, that some players would like a legacy-leaderboard. Itâs probably on a list with thousands of other things they want to fix/add/change. When it gets there, theyâll release it. Until then, just chill. Either play the game until then, or, if itâs such a game breaking issue for you, play another one until they add it.
Mike said, as recently as a week before launch, in his stream, that theyâd like to add exclusive cycle content, theyâre just not sure what it would be. Theyâd probably start with cycle-exclusive uniques.
So he might have said that in the past, but not recently.
So he might have said that in the past, but not recently.
He told me something else in the official discord last week, so in reality neither you nor I know what it will really be like. Time will tell
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Itâs quite possible that they donât really know yet what will happen. I understand they have a roadmap until 1.2 only. And itâs also quite possible that player feedback will sway their decisions until then. Either way, Iâm not expecting different content until 1.2+.
But in my opinion, cycles will need to have exclusive content. Otherwise there really isnât much incentive to join cycles except if youâre chasing leaderboards or just enjoy the fresh start, which is a minority. And empty cycles will end up being bad for the game.