There are a few threads I’d like to add -1 vote to. I realize that not having that is “like” a -1 vote. But, showing it would give voice to those that disagree without having to add a negative comment to the thread.
Also, some of the threads that I am on the fence about, I think it would be interesting to see the ratio results of how the player base feels. Without having to reading through the replies of the less courteous people that feel it is OK to bash others that don’t line up with their opinion.
This isn’t important, I’d rather see the game fixed and running smoothly for everyone. It’s just a thought.
I’m actually on the fence about this. I think adding a -1 option can be detrimental. There are many situations where an issue doesn’t warrant a -1 but will be given one by various reasons that shouldn’t be applicable. Like people just being trolls.
I think the most effective way is to make a new opposite thread. For example, regarding mastery respec, you could make one to not allow mastery respec and people will then vote on it. You can then compare votes in one vs the other. I think that might be more effective without encouraging trolls.
I do agree with that logic. Considering I mentioned trolls in a round about way (“Without having to reading through the replies of the less courteous people that feel it is OK to bash others that don’t line up with their opinion.”). I didn’t consider the trolls and the affect of the -1 voting. Good point!
This coming from a person (me) that can’t even figure out how to add the “vote” system to the thread. haha. Otherwise, I would have had that on this thread. Though I didn’t try very hard to find out how to do it.
You can only vote on threads that are in the “Feedback and Suggestions” category. For those, just scroll to the top and click the vote button below the amount of votes.
On the one hand, I’d love to -1 all the cockamamie “I’m bad, make the game easier” ideas that people keep dumping here .
But on the other hand, having spent time on Reddit in the past and seen how downvoting actually gets used, IMO it’s a massive net negative when it exists.
You can already put people on your Ignore list, just click on their name, then on the top right, select from the dropdown. Best part is you can set X months in case you think they might deserve a second chance.
Ah ok ty. I don’t really see a need for me to block people. There’s this phenomenon that seems to occur with all these games and their forums. There’s people that will take everything that is said about a game that isn’t flattering as a personal attack. They don’t help anybody or offer any useful advice, which I would think would be a default stance of someone that was passionate or invested in something.
I personally used it on a few people that were the ones directly attacking people.
It’s a compliment to EHG that the game invokes such passion, I guess, but I just let those people cool off a month or 2 and then continue on. If I wanted to be personally insulted, I’ll go talk to my family.
Having -1 on votes give trolls the perfect opportunity to do what they do best: trolling. That’s why reddit is such a one-corridor opinion, because anyone dissenting from the cesspool is immediately downvoted. We don’t need that here and public discourse certainly doesn’t benefit from it.
I like the idea. My understanding is that you only have 16 votes at a time on active threads? I would assume people would have to really hate a suggestion before sacrificing a relatively valueable vote for a downvote.
So I doubt anybody would waste a vote on a Lagon-Thread to vote it down. Because then you would be out of votes within a week
And this way we could condense the “Ward ruins the game” and “Ward is great for the game” threads into a single one.
It would be nice then to count for up- and downvotes each.
Not having a -1 option makes it so people approach every post from a at least neutral perspective and gives it a chance.
A -1 option would only serve a hive mind culture which I personally strongly dislike.
While @BroncoCollider doesn’t always has the most friendly way to express themselves and often is outright hostile, I still think certain comments, even while being very hostile should not be hidden, if they at least are on topic.
That is why I dislike Reddits system a lot. There are often threads with valueable statements or opinions but because they don’t align with the majority of people reading it and giving it downvotes it gets hidden.
I personally think a downvote option would come with advantages and disadvanatges.
Maybe EHG could implement it in a way that you don’t see nubmer and obly if one outweights the others. And EHG could see the actual numbers internally.
To expand on this, if you had a -1 vote option, there would be many cases where people wouldn’t even read the post and replies and simply downvote it blindly.
Ultimately, it would mostly serve to obscure issues that don’t affect the majority of players, which is not always a good thing. Just because it doesn’t affect you, it doesn’t mean it’s not an issue that could or should be addressed.
The best example of this is the gendered models issue. Most players would downvote it, obscuring the issue entirely, when it’s clearly an issue. It’s just not a priority. But knowing the issue exists is important for the devs, even if it’s not important for most players.
So I feel that the downvote is a net negative for the community/devs feedback loop which they spent so many years creating.
It would be much more useful, on the really divisive issues like respec, to simply make a poll and see which way the chips fall.
Tbf, people (ab)use the Reddit downvote button not as the intended “does not contribute to discussion” vote, but rather a “I disagree” button.
But the “Hive Mind” won’t care if you obscure the negative votes, Reddit does it as well through obfuscating the actual value and there is a 50/50 chance if you go negative, people just heap on the downvotes regardless.
