Pharran, Scourge of the Skies is OP - please tune it down it kills my minion army in seconds

So, I think this guy: Pharran, Scourge of the Skies is OP AF.

It can insta kill all my minion pack. It can also insta gib the tankiest of my chars with lot of HP, 100% block chance jada jada.

Please, just tune it down.

I wonder it is only me getting frustration over this one enemy? :tipping_hand_woman:

GL&HF :vulcan_salute:

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Which one’s that?

Corruption level? My forge guard only died on abberoth last phase due to sustain problems :smiley: He is doing 300c harbingers standing still all fight,

… and brewmaster poison stacks test, that doesn’t count :stuck_out_tongue:

the strongest btw was enemy was Orca pog champ with few crazy mods

666cc with skele minions, no chance to pass that guy :frowning: Well maybe no chance but like 1 in 10 and like 5 minutes long fight lol :stuck_out_tongue:

Ps. My forge guard is facetanking all the way to 1000cc, baypasing most enemies tech, so what? Doesnt change the fact that guy we are taking about is hitting absurd amount of dmg.

The fire-based archer guy.

I do have to admit he’s the champion that has killed my characters the most so far.

I’m not certain, but I think Pharran has a couple really precise high damage attacks (meteor strike, a kick) that are still ā€˜fair’ because they can be avoided… Unless the champion modifiers are causing too many other AoEs that pressure your movement.

I’ve definitely had a lot of surprise deaths to him, but it doesn’t seem out of line with other champions.

I am glad I am not the only one complaining about this guy:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1k7a1p6/just_build_hp/

Dude on reddit get hit with crit attack despite 100% crit avoidance, thats definitly strange.

He didn’t. He said ā€œSince thenā€, meaning they capped their crit avoid after this death (as well as other DR layers).

The point of his post wasn’t that Pharran was overtuned, it was that simply building hp isn’t good enough for defense.

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But that is not the case. You can crash all the content around and hitting this enemy and just insta die… so there is the problem imho.

I’m not saying there isn’t a problem. Just that the reddit post you linked wasn’t complaining about the mob itself, just making a point that focusing on hp alone isn’t enough defense.

I though it was just irony :slight_smile:

The title is ā€œJust build hpā€ and he follows it by ā€œsince then I’ve added extra layers of defenseā€ (paraphrasing), so it seems to be irony but towards the people that suggest all you need is hp to not die.

That’s not to say this mob isn’t a problem, but there isn’t even information on what corruption it is, what the build was, etc. So I think it’s just a coincidence that it’s the same mob and it could have been any other and the OP would have still posted it.

I’m at 164 corr on my current, not yet completed, Paladin and I (at least almost) never get one-shot by him. He is a much heavier dmg dealer than most Champions, but Ghost to me is worse. I have gotten one-shot by him more.

I think both of them need to be looked at. just not positive that they need ā€œsignificantā€ adjustment, just some slight to make them more comparable to the other Champions.

Why lower the good ones, raise stats of another weak champs. I doubt it ā€œone shotā€ and if its true, then your characrter don’t have enough mitigations.

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I have every mitigation that Acolyte can have: 100% block chance with 50% reduction, 72% armour, res capped, crit avoid 100%, 500+hp regen, 400+ energy shield regen… still this on guy can oneshot me :slight_smile: It is just OP for Acolyte, period :slight_smile:
I know what I am talking about :slight_smile:

ps. the only way to get rid of enemies like this for acolyte would be to get so much dmg to anihilate this guy in few shots… but that is not possible for now :slight_smile: at least not for skeletons :slight_smile: Waiting for buffs… :wink:

I didn’t specifically say to lower them, I already stated that I don’t have any issues really with them just that they are stronger than the others. Some players do have issues with them apparently and what I said was that they need to be looked at to make them more comparable to the others. The others are decently strong but these two outshine them in that respect.

If you have no problem with them that’s good for you, but the devs should be able to look at the logs to see if they are too strong in comparison to the others based on player builds that have faced them.

Either way, they all need to be looked at to make sure they are all comparable, and that none are more of a pain than others in the all-around sense. There WILL be some that are harder for certain builds regardless and this is not necessarily a problem, just something that people need to be aware of.

One of the worst oneshotters. Some of his attacks seems to be op or even brocken. It is not fun to be nuked by champ on c580 after facetanking Aby or c1000 monolith bosses

agreed, he can wipe out quite tanky minion army with the main char in like 3 hits :slight_smile:

another ā€œface tank except thisā€ character. What about c1000 lagon beam?