Paradox Classes are a incredible thing!

If they started with classes, they will can continue with boosters for experience/movement speed, etc. Through battle passes, for example. Well, so what? Oh yeah, gachas

The cosmetics are very sparse. Of all that exists, maybe about 10 items are actually nice. Although the quantity is huge. They need to refresh cosmetics.

They could sell story skips to the people who can’t be bothered to run the story down in a few hours. I would applaud if they milk people like that :smiley: .

Oh, I would buy that. And I would also buy the “free chest” with nests ;D

Chest MTX for the win! Who don’t want a dragon hord instead of an IKEA chest.

Take these dirty green papers!11

The problem with selling story skips is that they need to add an alternative way to level up.
Otherwise you have to also sell the level up of the character (and probably give it some base gear) to level 60 and that’s basically P2W.

Simply being able to skip the campaign but then you have to do the campaign anyway because you’re level 1 and literally can’t handle anything else is kinda dumb.

personalmente no estoy muy de acuerdo con la idea de cobrar por una nueva clase, pero aca viene lo que nadie asume, ejemplo diablo nos dio expansiones con nuevo personaje y te cobra y eso no va a cambiar, aca nos dan la expansión gratis y te cobra por un nuevo personaje si es que esto va a funcionar, es mas que obvio que esta idea no va a caer muy bien en la comunidad pero nadie piensa que EHG es una empresa en desarrollo y no tiene el capital suficiente para darte todo gratis no es blizzar con miles de millones de dólares a pero claro podríamos pensar en GGG con poe2 que de momento todo el contenido es gratis pero te cobraron por un EG que pague con mucho gusto y igual lloran, no molesten esperemos a ver que sale como sale y si funciona y después en base a hechos y pruebas ahi lloren antes no

They could fund their experiments by selling us MTX. To do that, they just need to make them look good, which EHG unfortunately can’t do. Compare it to POE; if you blindly click on any MTX on the store page, it will look better than any MTX in LE.

They also have a reasonable plan for making money from their experiments: releasing the game on PS5, and perhaps on Xbox and phones in the future.

After all, the game hasn’t been in its final form for very long, and it hasn’t yet acquired a significant amount of interesting and varied content. All it currently has are mob-filled holes, so I don’t think paid DLC is appropriate against this backdrop.

So I’m paying to playtest something that might even be taken away from me if it’s not good enough? No, thanks. I did that in early access, we’re past that.

If you release an F2P game then that’s what you do, you experiment on your own pocket. The business model was communicated as purchase once and get ALL further content for FREE while you can purchase cosmetic stuff. Problem is, the MTX store was almost empty when the game launched, it’s still almost empty to be honest. If you plan to cover your expenses with money from a cosmetic MTX store then you better make sure to pack that store full of stuff that people actually want to buy. I’ve spent my free points and I haven’t felt the need to purchase any more points because there’s almost nothing in the store that begs for purchase. The bigger problem is Last Epoch has lost 70% of its initial player base by season 3. Even if they made shitloads of flashy cosmetic stuff there’s simply not enough players now to make it profitable especially when seasons are dragged out to half a year. You won’t make any money on cosmetic stuff if you have only 1.5k concurent players for months.

Paid characters is just an escape route from to the backlash on the paid expansion but to be honest a paid expansion fits much more to a purchase once game than a paid character. I think the new character was part of the expansion which was supposed to be a paid one but they chickened out of a paid expansion and made the new character paid because they need to make money somehow. I think a paid character is a bigger disappointment than a paid expansion. Especially if it’s experimental.

It’s neglectable. You can even remove this toons from participating in the leaderboards who cares? I don’t care if someone else I never play with starts at lvl 1 or 60. Poop Consistency is more important to me then this. Everyone who’s making a big deal out of this because it reduces playtime or whatever should look at people who will buy this. They aren’t arround much longer or less long if you get a story skip for 20 bucks.

If people who think they are to good to speedrun a campaign in 4-6 hours lead to me not having to pay for stuff i shouldn’t in the first place I’m all for it. So make them lvl 60 and give them yellow T20 gear so their resis are maxed and their defences are in a good state. I don’t give a rats behind as long as I profit from it and not have to spend money on basic stuff
 like classes.

You’d also need to prevent them from joining MG, in that case, otherwise they’d have a leg up in getting the best items early on, which we know is actually important in a trade market.

If you make the skip only for the 2nd character (after your first one got past level 60 and finished the campaign) then there’s no more issue (if they’re also removed from leaderboards, of course).

They’ll have a leg up no matter what. They are faster by a lot and can simply speedrun a second toon even faster with all the clutter they drop. I still don’t give a rats behind because it isn’t bothering me at all.

This might be a good middle ground. I guess I care far less about this then others because i only play with a selected few players and we play CoF anyway.

Im for anything that speeds up the updates. We need more content! :smiley:

More content sure, but maybe polish the current content first, specially that endgame

If the paid classes are overturned, and then the game starts being balanced around these overturned classes then they are an incredibly shit thing!

With this announcement, I’m out. I don’t have a problem supporting the devs through supporter packs while hoping to God the mtx quality improves but p2w classes?

This game is dead and over. I’m not coming back

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I am looking forward to this tbh. I said in forums shortly after EL launched that I think it would be better if skills and ailments was not class locked. Open it up. excited to see the new stuff people come up with.

Please, tell me where should I look for info about unlocked ailments or even skills? Only some weightless rumors and assumptions here n there.
Re-read Judd’s announcements - " fully alternate playable class built on systems that work differently from anything else in the game. We’re calling this new category Paradox Classes "
No cross-class, no unlocked etc.

does not say its not cross classes ither. could be anything. :man_shrugging:
so you saying it will be all new classes and skills not tested or anything?.. hmmm maybe.
ither way will be interesting :muscle:

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Beta testing new heroes for $ was not what we were promised. Promises mean nothing to Krafton. This is the new reality. This game is being turned into a money printer because Krafton has some big bills to pay.