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stuff like exsanguinous and twisted heart of uhkeiros, you lose % hp per sec/ attack and gain it in ward. then with life leech you gain that health back and the cycle continues. what is the upper limit of ward someone can achieve by doing this (and not using any bugged skills)? imo total ward shouldn’t be able to exceed amor when calculating for effective hp one shots (which is think is around 20k). then there is the damage done to mana before health which i am unfamiliar with but heard is really strong. not sure how to balance that

I think you’re looking at this from the wrong angle. THE ONLY DEFENSIVE LAYER THAT WORKS IS THE WARD, and the real problem is why the others don’t work. This is an RPG created by the mouse arrow, not a damn flap bird where touching things will kill you. my character has a stat called dodge, I hope HE dodges things not me. at some point we lost the experience of the western ARPG and switched to generic Korean ones with everything tiny and lasting milliseconds, the buffs last 1s their life is ridiculously tiny…1 second and tiny things don’t satisfy anyone… This game urgently needs to elevate life makes block and dodge relevant, or drastically reduces damage, and for minion builds they should make minions either immune to areas of damage or at least reduce 99% of that damage, because the AI that guides them is pathetic

The only thing that needs to happen urgently is for dudes like you to stop dumping your weird rants all over the forums like the problem is anything other than you being bad.

To wit:

You literally have a hotkey that tells them where to go. The “pathetic AI” is you, homie.

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I dare you to try, everyone knows that minions are shit to the point that the top tier beastmaster doesn’t use comapinions. everyone knows that purely mechanical games get tired and are a shit model for a lasting game made in seasons. we saw this with the error of d3, wolsem, d4, the worst poe leagues etc… in its current form the game has potential but has serious problems, and the defense is the worst of them because this is literally killing ALL the minions builds and all The meele builds have already started abandoning the game, do you think that if it continues like this, people will come back to repeat the same thing in season 2? in 3? with the game funneling down to 2 viable classes? No real trade because everything here is behind a time gate? We are the ones who warned about D4, they ignored us and look what happened, 2 seasons and the game is dead

The last thing you want in a LowLife build in general is Life Leech. All leech does is reduce your Ward - and by an amount that is greater than the health you got back (assuming you are wearing a full “set” of LL items (chest, boots, experimental gloves etc) - which you will be to maximise your ward). This is why LL builds avoid picking up potions in general as they simply reduce your EHP.

Twisted Heart is a special case as it changes all the rules. The health it drains (and the ward it gives as a result) is a % of your current life, so it’s weak if your health is low. Twisted Heart is therefore counter productive for a Low Life build).

So I think the answer to your overall question is no.

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You don’t play many Minion builds do you? The AI is terrible, even when you tell them where to go. Especially ranged Minions. You tell them where to stand or what to shoot and they often go on a big circular dance around and around that point which can last for 5+ seconds before they decide to start firing again.

I find it odd that there are so many good ‘‘x at low life’’ affixes with high modifiers.

You aren’t taking a risk all you did was equip 1 hp to ward item and build more ward.
These sort of bonuses are more in line with someone actually living on the edge and risking death.

ah i’m trippin i see now. thanks for the clarification

Ok. I’ve been doing it for years already. How much longer do you think it will be of trying it before it stops working in exactly the way I need it to?

You’re bad at the game. It’s ok to be bad at the game. It’s just a game. That doesn’t mean the game is bad though.

you again lol. all you do is go from post to post to spread negativity. don’t be surprised when no one takes you seriously. btw why didn’t you respond to my last post on my other thread, but instead came here to talk shit? its cuz you don’t really care about the subject matter of the threads you post in, all you care about is shitting on other ppl. its pathetic but i hope you feel better cuz its obvious you’re miserable

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what about twisted heart and life leech? is that capable of reaching insane ward numbers? i swear i’ve seen somewhere ppl reaching insane ward without the currently bugged skills

Yes Twisted Heart can deliver high amounts of ward but you usually achieve that with a high health build that has strong leech. So when the Heart triggers, the HP it removes (and hence ward granted) is a substantial amount, and you immediately replace that HP with leech. Cycle and repeat. Hence you have high HP and high ward.

This is why builds without natural access to strong leech often pair a Twisted Heart with a Bleeding Heart… they go perfectly together.

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