New skill gating is bad

[washa3]

@Fugue

Forgive me if I’m wrong, but I believe I could previously invest up to the 35 points in alternate masteries in order to unlock even their most expensive abilities, but now that investment counts only up to a cap of 22 for each alternate mastery.

If this was a thing (don’t think it was) but if it was, it hasn’t been that way for ~1.5 years at least

@Fugue

For clarity I’ll rephrase; you can still invest more than 22 points in trees other than the one you’ve chosen as your mastery, but it doesnt count towards unlocking skills higher than a cutoff cost of 22.

The cutoff is halfway through the tree, which is 25 points

@Fugue

I -have- a druid that lost access to Avalanche who had 20 points in that skill, and they didnt change avalanche around this patch at all.

They did

@Aluxaeterna

Primalist Unlock Order

• Maelstrom is now unlocked at character level 12 (from 15 points in Primalist passives).
• Warcry is unlocked at 10 points in Primalist passives (from 10 points in Beastmaster passives).
• Summon Storm Crows is now unlocked at 15 points in Primalist passives (from character level 16).
• Summon Scorpion is now unlocked at 15 points in Beastmaster passives (from 30).
• Summon Frenzy Totem is now unlocked at 25 points in Beastmaster passives (from 20).
• Summon Sabertooth is now unlocked at 35 points in Beastmaster passives (from 10 points in Primalist passives).
• Earthquake is now unlocked at 15 points in Shaman passives (from 10).
• Avalanche is now unlocked at 25 points in Shaman passives (from 20).
• Spriggan Form is now unlocked at 5 points in Druid passives (from 15).
• Summon Spriggan is now unlocked at 15 points in Druid passives (from 10).
• Entangling Roots is now unlocked at 35 points in Druid passives (from 5).

@Fugue

I’m pretty sure being forbidden from using skills from alternate masteries that cost an investment of 25 and 35 points is new, and that fits what ive been saying about losing access to some large amount of build diversity.

Its been this way for at least a year if not more (my memory is a little fuzzy after a year, but certainly since the release of the Rogue).

@Fugue

I’m pretty sure there were like frost builds and poison builds that werent Beastmaster that already used scorpion.

For the last… Who knows how many patches, Scorpion was a Beastmaster exclusive skill, unlocked past the halfway point in the Beastmaster passive tree.