Except the one about not discussing disciplinary actions. This isn’t Reddit.
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Yea but we are talking about what lead to the mute, did you miss that part?
You could make the arguement reedit and forums are seperate, albeit maybe they have same mods, who knows. Him being banned on reedit and talkinf about it here are different.
It would be somethinf else if he got banned here and made an alt
I can easily tell this was probably a spammy, abrasive, aggressive hail of words designed not for criticism or conversation, but instead for contempt in hopes to cause damage.
I hate social media brained self victims that lie and are wrong.
This behavior dilutes the people who actually have legitimate or legitimately laid out criticism with the game.
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I haven’t seen @Discolnferno did anything you accuse him of.
If he was a dig he got rightfully banned if the mods of EHG have to much pressure and ban people who say criticle stuff it’s something different.
From EHGs stance in the beginning that they take a step back from communicating with people because they got a lot of preassure I’m not that convinced that the couldn’t be a problem on EHGs side of things because a person at the ban switch was fed up.
On the other hand such forum posts are useless at general and this should be talked about with the game support via E-Mail.
The way this original post is laid out is filled with tons of things I quoted that all reinforce this thought. Nothing there positively encourages discussion, debate or brings forth contructive criticism.
Why would I assume the behavior outside of this forum was any different?
Thousands of people talked about and complained about and criticized the bugged state of different things. I’m not seeing a congaline of people getting banned/muted.
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And then again he isn’t swearing and just saying he did nothing wrong. I can’t see anything here that makes me think “That person is a problem and known to be a dighead so I can be releatively sure he said questionable stuff.”
From that point of view nothing is reinforced at all. Sure his descission to debate a 24h ban on the forums is silly by itself but that so far is the only realy questionable thing I see here. I’m sure EHG has the chatlogs and can tell him when he was breaking the rules by saying what.
I got a post removed at one time by mods and they never gave me a reason why so I have no high hopes for him contactiong the support ^^.
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Re-read the original post. It is loaded with assumptions, attacks on integrity, attacks on ethics, insults, contradictory statements and that’s just the original post.
Screenshot links can be imbedded in these forums I am pretty sure.
Oh trust me, many games, especially Amazon games have had some toxic terrible horrible mods who drop their political takes into the forums and ban anyone with opposing takes.
I want to see these screenshots. It’s a shame I can’t just look at the whole conversation since if he was muted, it likely deletes the posts so no one can know.
I’m aware it was wrong of me to come to the forum to complain about my mute but I needed a place to vent to be quite honest. The moderator had assured me I wasn’t breaking any rules in my discussion but then turns around and bans me because they saw that a large amount of people were disagreeing with me, if that is indeed what happened then that does not look good as a moderator to take a stance based on mob mentality rather than pure judgement and going off enforcing the rules.
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Now that would be intresting if you are able to proof it. well… IF… 
This implies you have screenshots.
This also implies you have screenshots of the conversation.
This also implies you have ALL of the screenshots of the conversation.
This forum allows you to link them.
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Right but by linking them I would be further breaking the rules and possibly warrant a forum ban so I’m not going to do so, I have messaged support and will await their response as I think that’s the best course of action to take.
So everything that was needed to be done was done. Everything that was unnessesary to say was said. This one can be closed for ure because nothing will be shown here anyway ^^.
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Abrasive, Toxic Forum Title
Abrasive, Toxic Original Post
Announcement of screenshots to reinforce the argument
Screenshots to reinforce the argument
Nope, the screenshots would break the rules and possibly warrant a forum ban.
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What seems to have happened was that you argued with people in chat. You had time to make your points but wouldn’t let go. You were warned by a moderator more than once. You challenged the authority of the moderator and ignored him. Only then you were muted.
Is it possible that this chain of events is a bit closer to the truth than your initial post implies?
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Yes you did:
Not “can be a violation” or any equivalent - is a violation. No qualifiers, no caveats - “removing them is a violation”. That is what you claimed and stuck with until you were challenged with factual evidence that you were wrong.
One of the biggest mistakes we make when arguing with dummies is that we don’t take their own words at face value-- we allow them pretend that their initial move was meaningless in comparison to the revisions, like a bank robber who says to the police, “yeah, but I’m giving it back right now.” The initial volley is always the most relevant: everything afterwards is defense.
If this is the level of honesty you’re coming to the table with, I think it’s safe to say that anything coming out of your digital mouth should be ignored. Anything you claim happened to you, anything you claim to have witnessed or heard of, is either a flat out lie or an extremely disingenuous version of what actually happened. There’s a term for this, it’s DARVO, and it means you’re full of shit.
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You seem to not be able to get what i said. The law states that its a violation on the grounds that i mention. That same law says you can remove said posts on the grounds X,Y.
That is how the law works, i then explained to you most posts do NOT QUALIFY for being removed under such conditions. In every case, then those posts being removed is ILLEGAL.
I dont need to say could be because there is no situation where removing posts from normal reviews where it would NOT be illegal. It ALWAYs is illegal except in the cases where its not. Its the burden of the company to prove their intention was not criminal.
This is for a court to decide. Innocent until proven guilty.
From Valve Inc.
Therefore, if reviews were removed from Steam, it was not EHG who removed them, but a moderator authorized by Valve. EHG might have flagged them, and then some non-EHG moderator agreed that this was justified.
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On top of it steam is a platform you can use by choice and with the according ToS and CoC. Everyone who disagrees with that and how Steam or EHG handels things need to drag them to the court and duke it out.
BTW can we close this clownfiesta of a thread pretty please? We are all no lawyers (i guess) and rambling on about this topic that will be disclosed via E-Mail is kind of stupid.
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Except the Steam & LE forums requires you to consent to their terms of use, making a legal binding contract in which you agree to their moderation and abstain from the right to sue them over it. It’s in fact them that would have the right to sue you for breach of contract by not maintaining a proper decorum as per guidelines. They just chose the ban option because there are only so many courtrooms in the world to use.
You’re still free to go walk in the streets to voice your opinion, but nobody is required to listen to you or provide you with a soapbox and megaphone without limitations.
I’m gonna be honest, you sound very much like one of those “mah freedumz” facebook rants right now, talking about how it’s illegal to pretty much disagree with them.
PS: Steam is a both a games sales platform and a review site. If it was not a review site, you would not be allowed to post reviews. The law allows them to provide multiple services at once.
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