Minions from items

General
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The patch is adding a new unique that lets you summon a “historic minion.” This sounds cool and thematic, but in the past when I’ve tried to make minions from items like the bees from Bloodkeeper’s nest or the Crab from the ring work, they didn’t do much and I’ve been told that the main reason is that they don’t have a skill tree, so they aren’t going to get access to more multipliers that make other minion skills work.

So I guess I have a question and a suggestion:

  • Is the new item going to be any different? Will it be functional enough to use with a build?
  • Can we get those minion items a buff at some point? I still really want to make bee druid or some kind of crab build, but it just seems to bad to bother.
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No.

For a minion build alongside other minions? Probably? As the focus of a standalone minion build? Probably not (for the whole “no skill tree” reason).

Why? It’s not intended to be the focus of a build, it’s just a nice little extra minion.

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Does that even do anything for you though if they don’t have much damage or health or synergy with anything? Also maybe this item and the crab ring don’t matter as much, but the Bloodkeeper’s Nest is screaming to be built around. It requires you to be in a specific transformation, it’s got stat scaling for the bees which suggests some value in investing into it. What’s the point if it’s not gonna do anything?

Another thing that got me thinking about this was the new unique relic that gives you Vale Spirits every second while in Treant Form. It’s basically occupying the same slot and role that Bloodkeeper’s nest does: Get free units per second in Treant Form, but it’s just gonna be better because it’s actually associated with a proper skill tree. Why does this get to work but the bee one has to be trash?

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But that’s the Spiritwhisperer node?? They also don’t do anything unless you’re using Spirit Thorns.

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Yeah that’s what the Vale Spirits are for. Point is if you’re using them then this should be better.

I guess what I’m getting at isn’t that this is exactly the same as the bee thing. Obviously you still need to cast a spell to make it work, but I figured I had to be casting something with the bee build anyway like Thorn Shield or something. It’s just that it feels like it fits a similar thematic idea of getting passive summons while being a tree, but it just does it better and it can’t be used to supplement the bee build because it’s in the same slot.

Doesn’t really matter. My point is I want the bees to bee good.