Mad Alchemist Ladle + Rune Prison Complex echo is too rare

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TLDR I can’t get ANY Rune Prison echos, and I can’t get enough Ladles to participate in corruption mechanic. Feels bad man.

This being the season of Spellblade (for me), I’ve been looking for spoons to craft for the more damage multiplier for procs and the passive flat damage spellblade receives. Mad Alchemist Ladle only dropping from exiled mages means it does not benefit from wand echo rewards or imprinting to find LP1+ or generic wand prophecies. Target farming instead involves speccing them in weaver tree and running tombs, which can wind up being quite annoying backtracking through a completed tomb to find the rune prison spawn, or imprinting the Rune Prison Complex for a feel good monolith proc for 5 chances at dropping it. However, Rune Prison Complex cannot be bought or rerolled into in the Cemetery of Reweaving, does not seem to be eligible in woven echo mono rewards, and only drops, at an incredibly low 1% rate, from Exiled Mages. I just need ONE to imprint and make it a bearable farm! This is compounded by the issue of Rune Prison spawns not having a global message upon entering monos like Rift Beast Portals or Omen Windows, so I’m sure I’ve missed hundreds of opportunities at dropping either by not full clearing monos on my way to 300 corruption.

Please consider:

  • Granting Rune Prisons in Tombs and Cemeteries a waypoint as Tombs and Fateweavers have
  • Granting Rune Prisons a global announcement like Rift Beasts and Omen Windows have
  • Making a new and purchaseable common echo similar to the Kill Exiled Mages mono map.
  • Making Rune Prison Complex echo buyable or reweaveable, making memory amber farming a viable target farm
  • Making Rune Prison Complex drop more often or added to another drop table

It feels really bad to have to detour HARD into tombs on the push to 300c, not to mention backtracking through empty tombs, just to get ONE echo to imprint, UGH.
It feels really bad to be in a season about gambling corruption to get cool new outcomes and have that opportunity feel completely of reach for a fundamental build item. I’ve luckily gotten one Ladle, but corrupting them feels totally out of reach, whereas i have like 30 LP1 Jasper’s staves to roll something cool for my Flamereave build.

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Brother, I understand your pain. But here’s something to think about.

  1. By adding Echoes of the Runic Ward to your timeline, you can farm them infinitely by simply dying before completing the quest (die when the last mage remains).
  2. I just farmed the prison 10 or 12 times in a row, killed at least 300 mages, and didn’t get a single ladle. Whether this is a coincidence or not, I don’t know, but I’m tired of it and I’m taking a break. Maybe ladles don’t drop there.
  3. The Weaver tree has a leveling option that allows you to get more exiled mages from your echoes.
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I haven’t done any extensive testing, but I don’t think you can get exiled mage-specific rewards if you suicide. I remember dying in there on my first attempt while lvling and not seeing any experimental items drop for instance. I assume this also applies to ladle’s. When I need to use the craft I imprint the echo and go on my way and I usually find one relatively fast. If you want to force a spawn you can do the chain timeline skip where you have “Memories of the Observer” node on the weaver tree allocated and continually reset your echo web at the sanctuary to try and force the imprint spawns. The ladle is super common and I already have an LP4 one that I am not even using since I’m playing shurikens.

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The spoons are in the woven echo. Over 600 corruption they drop a lot, especially if you double the exile mages using the woven tree. If you die and then you retry the echo, the echo lost the item rarity boost from corruption, then no more Ladle, it’s written in red. Retry infinitely this echo is perfect to farm favour but not Ladle I think.

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