Great update! I like what I see, except for it to be so far out.
That’s all good and can be understood, but completely leaving the community with no word from EHG (of making any and all posts on other sites) just leaves a bad taste in the mouth for many.
I, and I know many others, would like to see more community involvement.
I will wait to see how it turns out, but the Omen Windows looks a lot like Arenas which is one part of the game I avoid any time I can.
IF you play an ARPG to “Compete” the problem is the people with this mindset you don’t need to play Meta to have fun in games people have been brain washed to think this way. It’s much better to sell an Optional class over locking all that awesome content behind a pay wall the only one forcing you to buy the class or not is you
are you trying to tell people how they should enjoy the game? so you dont like playing that way, does that mean no one else should? Everyone enjoys the game in different ways and never should anyone tell someone else “you are doing it wrong” I dont accept the dichotomy of “either content or class” has to be locked its a false premise that we dont have to accept.
Loving this ~ Thank you for the major update and so much to look forward to!
Totally stoked about the combat feel changes. EHG is cooking 
I understand the need to have good content rather than rushing. I am fully confident that whatever you release, it will be fun and I will spend a lot of time on it. And I’m assuming based on the resources committed and which projects were given a go, you guys were definitely stretched thin. But that’s really the answer, isn’t it? You must have known that based on your resource allocation and prioritization, certain projects would take longer, i.e. season 4.
We will never know the rationale behind certain decisions and nor should we. You guys will run your operations how you see fit. But it’s still extremely disappointing we can’t get good content AND on time and on schedule. It shouldn’t get to the point that you have to choose. I’d rather you choose good content over rushing, but my feeling and a lot of players feelings are probably that we should get good content and it should be at a specific cadence. This should never be a choice, but your team unfortunately got it to be a choice and that’s unfortunate. I still love all that you guys do and put in and don’t want this to in any way make it seem like I’m hating on you guys. I love playing this game so my disappoint is equally as big as my desire to play what you guys cook.
This is rad. I will wait until closer to March to lock in some leave from work 
Not everyone is going to want to play the class depending on the theme/abilities. Everyone is going to want to play the expansion content. They are not an equivalent comparison.
No I’m doing the opposite really your brain went to the worst which make sense since you seem to be one of these doomers false premise grow up buy the class or don’t its simple or just don’t play the game at all there is way more things in this world to worry or hate about it’s insane how some of you think
You don’t actually play any ARPGs, thats evident. Balance is ALWAYS a problem in every arpg, including poe and poe 2. Regarding paid classes; Diablo 1, 2, 3 and 4, as well as Grim Dawn have paid expansions with included class, that is ALWAYS op on release.
You are inventing reasons to still be mad at EHG. We all know you will play on March 26th, see you there.
Do you not understand how a studio purchase works? There are internal things going on that are outside of their control. You will get your content when its ready. The entitlement is off the charts in this forum.
Please seriously sit down.
True.
Not everyone is going to mind having expansions going forward. Everyone wants to feel like they’re not missing out on things though.
They are truly not an equivalent comparison.
They’re both an issue though, your description and mine. Which is better? Who knows!
Expansions simply have been more established is the first argument I’ll bring.
And the Steam store page actually is a legally binding contract and would open up potential - extremely severe - legal consequences for EHG if they use the class as their monetization method. That’s my second argument.
Yeah… here it’s kinda more so then in other games of the genre sadly.
Nobody asks for absolutely power equality of each class… but at least inside a threshold would be a beginning.
You quite literally said that people that enjoys the game this way are brainwashed… You are telling them how they should not enjoy competing in this kind of game… and now you are denying it telling me you are doing the opposite? Dude make up your mind, you cant say ppl that compete are brainwashed and then say " i never tell them how to enjoy the game" its ridiculous.
I care about the game, i guess you do too, the fact that you somehow think i want the game to fail is shortsighted af… only ppl that cares about it would come here to talk, i want what is better for LE and paid classes are simply not the right way… i personally know a few ppl that decided to drop LE because of this, i dont want to drop LE but i know this is the first step towards me dropping it, i know for a fact that this is not going to end here.
LE can be monetized in other ways, the fact that you think its either paid classes or paid expansion tells me you are just accepting whatever they are telling you instead of for a minute using your brain and realize “wait other companies have other methods of monetizations, what are they doing right?”
If you don’t thinking playing meta was not a form of brainwashing I don’t know what to tell you but me saying that does not mean I’m saying you shouldn’t play that way. You know what makes people not come back to games is when having to buy an expansion to play the game with there friends the class does not prevent them from playing new content what other companies do it bundle the class in the xpac and over charge for it forcing you to buy the xpac to play the new content EHG is not doing this and if the class is something the like they will buy it if they don’t they won’t buy it unless you’re jobless it shouldn’t be a problem at least they aren’t selling you a $90 xpacs like D4 knowing EHG the class price will be affordable Would I want them to come up with something better sure but that’s not the case for them it is what it is time to grow up and move on
It breaks my heart seeing the immense negativity around Last Epoch recently. I still love this game and wish the best for it and the devs. I understand the frustrations and agree with some of it, but also still hope and believe this game can succeed. The updated roadmap, quality improvement and content look great and I am super excited to play the game again! I hope Last Epoch will get through this low point, rebuild the community’s trust and continue long into the future (while also making profit!).
Devs, please keep true to your vision and keep building the game to be the best it can be, and don’t give up!
Pretty unremarkable for 7 months between releases.
Dude are you delusional ? The reason they are doing paid content after they sold the company is because it’s either that or shut down the studio. The f2p business model is not sustainable for them because they didn’t make enough money. It’s not really all that complicated.
The amount of red flag arguments you managed to fill into a single post is incredible… i will try to answer to them as fair as i can.
Selling a class is not the same as selling cosmetics or small optional extras. A class changes how people build characters and how fair the game feels. If the new class is too strong, people will feel they have to buy it. If it ends up weak, the people who bought it will feel cheated. Either result creates frustration. This is a negative that cannot be avoided by selling classes. (if you don’t care its fine but i guarantee ppl do care, and i think you know a lot of ppl do care)
Calling people brainwashed for caring about balance or competition does not help the discussion. People enjoy the game in different ways. Some want to push high content, some want to experiment with builds, some want to compete. None of these ways to play are wrong or brainwashed, its just what they want to do.
It is also not true that the only choices are locking story content or selling classes. There are many ways to support a game that do not split the community or make players feel pressured.
I want the game to succeed, and many others who criticize this decision want the same. Speaking up about paid classes is not negativity. It is concern for where the game is headed. There are better monetization options that do not create these problems.
If you are bringing D4 a game from a company with documented awful monetization why not bring up PoE? they don’t even sell the game and are doing better than the rest… maybe that’s what LE should be looking up to not looking how to not get to D4 (But still doing what d4 does, they do sell classes and xpancs) aiming low is always a failure
And when will the game be available on Xbox?
They have cosmetics. That is the point… the ARPG community will support them for making a good game. Look at GGG. They had less content and made all profits purely of cosmetic. We are hapoy to support companies that make good games.
The issues is Krafton bought them out. They don’t care about the game or the devs. Look what they did to Subnutica. They literally were caught using ChatGPT to ask them how they could avoid paying the devs and workers the promised bonuses.
Thinking this is coming from anyone but Krafton is delusional. They will burn the game to the ground for a quick buck. They don’t care if the game grows and is successful. They ONLY care about making a profit and if that means killing the future of the game to make money now they will and have done that.
Sure it isn’t profitable right now, but they can make it profitable with consistant updates and MTX.
Krafton is looking at short term profits and don’t care if the game will fail in 3 years as long as they make money.
Last Epoc was set up to be the 2nd best ARPG now it is setup to fail.
Finally some interesting stuff although I am afraid you already damaged the game and your reputation a little too much. People won’t forgive any kind of paid DLC and we are also not happy with expansions also being charged for newer players after season 6.
Now to go more specifically over the meat and potatoes of things. Out of what the road map shows (and this doesn’t means you may not be doing something not shown there, just what we can judge from) we see no reason to even jump into season 4.
The new mechanic is basically your interpretation of PoE of breach which in itself it’s not bad but simply adding to the game at our current stage isn’t enough.
Echo chains are much of the same, maybe we care if they are very rewarding but otherwise it isn’t something we’d necessarily go out of our way for compared to going after specific rewards we need.
Corrupted items and altars are looking mostly like extremely end game. People already struggle to get good gear let alone copies of good gear to gamble on which means involvement with this is going to be fairly low.
Rogue stuff primarily which while I’m sure plenty of people care was not really what needed help. You touched minions and minions are still in a disgraceful state and you haven’t even touched totems which are worse.
What we need here however is fixing the overtunned mobs and bosses to bring them in line the normal ones that are well balanced and we need fixing the empowered monolith issue that is making use everyone quits after 1 week because they can’t progress.
For season 5 we see a new boss so yay, more pinnacle content which the top players will rush in 1 week and say it’s too easy and the average players will not see because they can’t get past empowered monoliths.
Reworks for the guilds is great, they sorely need a HUGE boost but until we see any actual plans it’s hard to say if they actually help in any way.
Balance and skill changes may be good, I certainly hope they are but you need them yesterday, the ones I mentioned earlier because S4 is looking like an absolute disaster for monetization already (not to mention going forward).
S6 or the major expansion as you want to call it has so many issues but also some hope.
Again we see more pinnacle content when again, this is not what the game needs. The can use some pinnacle content AFTER people already playing it for at least a month, not when people can’t even progress. Stop chasing the PoE players because you cannot beat PoE at being an hardcore ARPG. Add this very sporadically once the game is in a good state to call in some of the PoE players but pay attention to your player base first.
Corruption tiers for the monolith gives me some hope this is a rework that MAY get people to not get progression blocked though I am unsure if this is going to work towards that however here’s the thing. The paid DLC class is almost surely going to kill your game and if your intention is to fix progression only when you add the paid DLC you are betting on people not even giving it a chance to begin with. You need to fix things now if you stand a chance of surviving the disaster that was breaking your promise and adding aggressive monetization.
Balance improvements are again something we hope will be good but well, these need to be in now, not before. In fact I’d dare say that if S4 was only fixing all the problems with the current content like progression blocks, overtunned content, making content that wasn’t appealing good, fix skill and play styles that are in a very poor state like minions and totems and finally fixing major bugs. That alone would make S4 a major success even without a seasonal mechanic or any content added.
You need to fix the big problems and now more than ever, after you got your entire player base very angry because without a radical change in attitude towards your player base, the game won’t survive and S4 is probably crucial in how many players you will lose permanently and how much revenue is lost permanently.